Mr. Specter.

Did you have any conscious impression of where the second shot came from?

Mrs. Hill.

No.

Mr. Specter.

Any conscious impression of where this third shot came from?

Mrs. Hill.

Not any different from any of them. I thought it was just people shooting from the knoll---I did think there was more than one person shooting.

Mr. Specter.

You did think there was more than one person shooting?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

What made you think that?

Mrs. HILL The way the 'gun report sounded and the difference in the way they were fired-the timing.
Mr. SPECTER. What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL.. Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.

Mr. Specter.

And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL. No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER. Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?

Mrs. Hill.

I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER. You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?

Mrs. Hill.

That's right.
Mr. SPECTER. But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?

Mrs. Hill.

No.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you get a very good look at that man, who you say was starting to run?
Mrs. HILL. Well, as I said, when I looked down at this red stuff on the ground, I said, "Oh," you know, to myself, "they hit him." You know, I was going to follow that, and when I looked up again, I looked all around and I couldn't see him anywhere and I kept running toward the train tracks and I looked all around out there and I couldn't see him---I looked everywhere and I heard someone yelling something about---it was just this voice that was yelling, "It looks like he got. away," or something---I thought I had been right, you know, that he had really gone up there and he had gotten away some way in the tracks or had gone around behind the Depository, and so, I didn't know where he had gone. By that time I saw policemen---where he had gone. By that time I saw policemen---some were coming off of their motorcycles just around the curb here just at the underpass here, and of course, the motorcade sped away and. the policemen were coming from all sorts of different directions, people were closing in, and all I could think of was, "I want to get out of here fast. I don't want to be caught by anybody. I don't want to be in on anything," and every-time anybody would come toward me I would go another way until I got off of that hill back up there where the tracks were.

Mr. Specter.

Did you run up toward the hill?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes; I ran up toward the railroad tracks.
Mr. SPECTER. Let me draw the triple underpass there, and you ran up to what point-where? About the point of "D" here?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

Why did you run up there after the man?

Mrs. Hill.

I was still looking for him. I didn't know where he had gone. I heard lots of people yelling, "Did he get away, did he get away, and which way did he go."

Mr. Specter.

You were trying to catch him?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes.
Mr. SPECTER. But you couldn't find him any more?