Mr. Belin.

I notice you are not wearing glasses now. Do you wear glasses?

Mrs. Rowland.

Yes; sometimes.

Mr. Belin.

Are you near-sighted or far-sighted?

Mrs. Rowland.

Near-sighted.

Mr. Belin.

Did you have any trouble looking at this window?

Mrs. ROWLAND. No; I saw the window plainly, and I saw some people hanging, looking out of some other windows, but he said that the man was standing in the background.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say about how far back?

Mrs. Rowland.

I think he said about 12 feet, I don't know exactly.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say how much of the man he could see?

Mrs. Rowland.

Apparently he could see at least from the waist up, because he said that the man was wearing a light shirt, and that he was holding the rifle at a port arms position.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether the man was white or colored?

Mrs. Rowland.

He said he thought he was white.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether the man was an old man or a young man?

Mrs. Rowland.

He said a young man.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether the man was fat or thin?

Mrs. Rowland.

He said he was either tall or thin I mean, if he was tall, he could have been well built, but if he was not very tall, then he was thin.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether or not the man had on a hat?

Mrs. ROWLAND. I don't think he said whether he did or not. But if he had seen a hat, I think he would have said so.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say what color hair the man had?

Mrs. Rowland.

I am not positive.
Mr. BELIN. About how many minutes was this before the motorcade came by that he saw this?

Mrs. Rowland.

About 15 minutes.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say anything else about the man?

Mrs. ROWLAND. Not that I remember, except that he was wearing a light colored shirt or jacket.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say anything about any other people in any other windows?

Mrs. Rowland.

No; I don't think so.
Mr. BELIN. Now, did you notice any other people standing in any other windows or leaning out?

Mrs. Rowland.

I am not sure if I did at that moment.

Mr. Belin.

Later on?

Mrs. ROWLAND. I saw some people either earlier or later looking out the windows.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember anything about any of the people you saw?

Mrs. Rowland.

Some of them were colored men. I don't think I saw any women.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see any white men?

Mrs. Rowland.

I am not positive.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember where you saw any of these Negro men?

Mrs. ROWLAND. On a lower floor, about the fourth floor, I think, and nearer the center window. The windows nearer the center.
Mrs. BELIN. On some floor lower than the sixth floor, which you think was the fourth floor?

Mrs. Rowland.

About the fourth floor.

Mr. Belin.

Did you and your husband comment about these other men?

Mrs. ROWLAND. We may have said something about there being other people watching, I am not sure.
Mr. BELIN. Did you particularly watch the sixth floor because of the fact that you had seen or your husband had seen a person on the sixth floor?
Mrs. ROWLAND. We looked at it for a few minutes, but we didn't look back, and when we heard the shots, we didn't look back up there. I grabbed his hand and started running toward the car.
Mr. BELIN. Let me ask you this now. From the time that you saw or your husband said he saw a man on the southwest part of the sixth floor, which