Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

You can see a scale here that is from 0 to 20 feet. Well, it would be about 30 to 40 feet north of the south wall of that building, is that right?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. And around 10 feet or so away from the east wall, is that about right?

Mr. Givens.

That is about right.
Mr. BELIN. Now, did you notice whether or not there were any cartons stacked up around the southeast corner of that sixth floor?
Mr. GIVENS. Well, I didn't pay any attention about any being stacked, because we had taken all that stock from that side of the building and ran it down that side.
Mr. BELIN. You had taken stock down from the west part of the sixth floor where you were working and put it there?

Mr. Givens.

Yes; ran it down the side right in front of the window.
Mr. BELIN. Was he between that stock and the window, or was he on the other side of the window?
Mr. GIVENS. He was between the stock and the window, coming towards the elevators.

Mr. Belin.

Coming towards the elevators?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see all of his body or not?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir; he had his clipboard in his hand.

Mr. Belin.

He had his clipboard in his hand?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Was that kind of an aisleway over there right next to the east wall that he was walking along, or what?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir; they have aisles.
Mr. BELIN. Now, was there stock in back of him as well as in front of him?
Were you there where you had stacked it up, or not, or don't you remember?

Mr. Givens.

Well, it was already some books stacked there.
Mr. BELIN. Were there books stacked between where you saw him and the window itself?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. All right, he was walking with his clipboard from that southeast corner?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Where did you see him walking? What direction did you see him walking in?

Mr. Givens.

He was coming towards the elevators.

Mr. Belin.

From the Elm Street side of the building?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, Sir.

Mr. Belin.

So that would be walking in a northerly direction?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Now, you said that he had a clipboard in his hand?

Mr. Givens.

Yes; he had his board with his orders on it.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see the orders on the board?

Mr. Givens.

Well, yes, sir; he had it in his hand.

Mr. Belin.

Did he have any books in his hand that he was carrying?

Mr. Givens.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did you ever fill orders in November on the sixth floor?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether or not there were any books or book cartons over in that corner from which he might have been filling orders?
Mr. GIVENS. Well, yes, sir; it was possible.

Mr. Belin.

It was possible?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did you watch where he walked to?

Mr. Givens.

Well, no, sir; I didn't pay much attention. I was getting ready on the elevator, and I say, "Boy, are you going downstairs?"
Mr. BELIN. What did he say to you?