Mrs. Rowland.

Oh, no; I wasn't wearing that brown coat, I don't think . I think I was wearing an olive coat. He probably had his overcoat, but it is more of a raincoat.

Mr. Belin.

Were you wearing gloves?

Mrs. Rowland.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Was he wearing gloves?

Mrs. Rowland.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Were you wearing a hat?

Mrs. Rowland.

No; a scarf.

Mr. Belin.

Was he wearing a hat, do you remember?

Mrs. Rowland.

He might have been. He wears one sometimes. Sometimes he doesn't.

Mr. Belin.

Is there anything else you remember about what happened prior to the time the motorcade came by?

Mrs. Rowland.

No.
Mr. BELIN. All right, now, will you please tell us what happened as the motorcade went by?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Well, Mrs. Kennedy was wearing a blue I mean a pink or maybe a rose---it was either pink or rose dress or suit, I couldn't say, because she was sitting. She had a pink hat or rose, the same shade as her dress.
And I remember noticing that the President's hair was sort of red, that is all. They were facing mainly toward the other side of the street and waving, and as they turned the corner we heard a shot, and I didn't recognize it as being a shot. I just heard a sound, and I thought it might be a firecracker.
And the people started laughing at first, and then we heard two more shots, and they were closer than the first and second, and that is all.

Mr. Belin.

How many shots did you hear all told?

Mrs. Rowland.

Three.
Mr. BELIN. When you said you heard two more shots that were closer than the first and second, what did you mean?
Mrs. ROWLAND. I meant the second and third were closer than the first and second.
Mr. BELIN. Mrs. Rowland, did you have any idea where the shots came from or the sound?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Well, the people generally ran towards the railroad tracks behind the School Book Depository Building, and so I naturally assumed they came from there, because that is where all the policemen and everyone was going, and I couldn't tell where the sounds came from.

Mr. Belin.

So you just started over after them?

Mrs. Rowland.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Did your husband go with you?

Mrs. Rowland.

Yes; I grabbed his hand and he couldn't go anyplace else.

Mr. Belin.

Were you running or walking over there?

Mrs. Rowland.

It wasn't a very fast run, but it wasn't a walk.
Mr. BELIN. Did you talk about anything, about the man that you had seen in the window?

Mrs. Rowland.

No. But he was reluctant to start running, and he might have been looking up there, I don't know. But we didn't say anything about the man.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do when you got over there? Where did you run to?

Mrs. Rowland.

To the colonnade over on the north side of Elm Street.

Mr. Belin.

As Elm Street goes down to the freeway?

Mrs. Rowland.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Then where did you go?

Mrs. ROWLAND. We walked towards the railroad tracks, but the policeman wouldn't let anybody go further.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?
Mrs. ROWLAND. We just stood there and he was speculating on what had happened, and he was looking around at everything, and the policeman inspected a Coke drink bottle that was there, and my husband found a pen, very cheap ballpoint pen that you get as an advertisement, and he gave it to