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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 247« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Henry Wade)

Mr. Wade.
But I asked Sorrels, I said, "How can you account for it?" I had already talked to Dean. I said, "I am getting ready to put him on the stand."
I said, "How are you going to what are you going to say if you go on the stand on this?"
He said, "Well, I called my office in Washington and they wanted me to find out two things: One, whether there was any connection between Oswald and Ruby from Ruby, and two, whether Ruby had any confederates or co-conspirators."
He said, "Those were the two things I went to find out and I dwelled on those entirely."
He said, "These other officers were there and when I left they were still questioning," and he seed, "I couldn't say whether that happened, I don't remember hearing it, I Just can't say that I heard it," and so the defense lawyers talked to Sorrels that night about testifying and didn't use him.
Of course, I thought probably they were going to use him on this one thing, but there were so many other things in the statement that were the same as what Dean has testified to about, something about being a hero, Jew hero, or something in the statement, which Sorrels had that in his statement.
He had practically everything in the statement, but this is one thing that he didn't have in there, as I recall.
I couldn't find it and asked him about it and he said he couldn't say it. He said there were a lot of things in there but he was interested in knowing only two things.
Mr. Rankin.
Did you examine Dean's statement in regard to this matter?
Mr. Wade.
Well, I read it there that day. It is a very short one, you know. Of course, there is more than one statement.
Mr. Rankin.
Yes; did you look at his prior statements at that time?
Mr. Wade.
I think I had all of his statements. He was in charge of security in the basement. All statements, this all came out on cross-examination, dealt entirely with the matter of security, what was done to secure the basement.
Mr. Rankin.
Did he say anything in regard to this premeditation in the prior statement?
Mr. Wade.
I don't think he did, and I don't think he actually said anything about how Ruby got in in that prior statement. I may be wrong, I don't remember even going into the conversation with Ruby.
Mr. Rankin.
What did Dean tell you at the time that you asked him about the later statement?
Mr. Wade.
He told me that he had been asked to submit a report dealing with the security of the basement, and that that first report was the security problem.
Mr. Rankin.
What did he say about that, the security?
Mr. Wade.
Well, he said that, he told me, that when he heard the shot that he thought a policeman had shot him because he didn't think there was anybody else in the basement. He said he thought a policeman had shot him, just got mad and the cop shot him for killing Officer Tippit.
I don't know whether that was in the statement or not but he told me that. I actually read that, that security, we were not too interested in that because from our point of view, because there is no question the security wasn't good. Something happened somewhere.
Mr. Rankin.
Did you learn from Dean how Ruby got into the basement?
Mr. Wade.
I learned the way he told him he got in.
Mr. Rankin.
How was that?
Mr. Wade.
On walking in on Main Street, the ramp down on Main Street. And I was under the impression he told a lot of Other people that. But if he had been in that basement a long time it would have helped us a lot to know it. It would have shown more premeditation, but I don't think he actually had been in long from what I know about the case.
But Ruby told Dean in his statement that he got in by going to the Western Union and walking there and the cop was helping a car go out into it. I don't know whether that is Dean, that is somebody's statement, that he went in that ramp and was there maybe a minute or two before they brought him out.
Mr. Rankin.
Did Dean tell you why he left out of his prior statements the statement about premeditation or prior thinking about killing Oswald?
Mr. Wade.
Well, he was cross-examined about that, and told me also that
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