Mr. Senator.

Yes. He had left a message at the Carousel or he may have been up there. As a matter of fact, I can even show you his card if you would like to see it. I've still got that.

Mr. Griffin.

What makes you think you were staying with the Lauves at that point?

Mr. Senator.

I think I was there. I'm not sure. I don't remember just where, but I think I was there at that time, because when Elmer Moore called me, I just don't remember how many days have elapsed by when he called me, see. I think it was a few days that were elapsed by when he called me and I think I may have been at the Lauves at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you return to work at any time before Moore----

Mr. Senator.

Return to work?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; before Moore called you.

Mr. Senator.

I hadn't worked at all from this thing here up until I told you I went to work the other day. If you want to classify me, I was just existing here and there, that is all.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Your employment up until the time that the President was killed was with the Texas Postcard & Novelty Co.?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that your own company?

Mr. Senator.

I was classified as sales manager and partner, but with no say. In other words, I had no money.

Mr. Griffin.

Who were the people, the backers?

Mr. Senator.

The backers?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

The people? A fellow by the name of Mort Seder and Ernest St. Charles.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you happen to get involved in that?

Mr. Senator.

In the postcard business?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; with them?

Mr. Senator.

Well, Ernest St. Charles found out--see, he had a card rack like a lot of drug stores do or gift shops or things of that nature. He had found out that this fellow wanted to sell his business because this was a minute business with him because, he had another one, you know, which was much larger or whatever, the household goods or, something of that nature.

Mr. Griffin.

As I understand it, the Texas Postcard & Novelty Co. was a going business.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Before Seder and St. Charles got involved in it?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; it was going. It was a going business. And he wanted to get rid of this business, because I Just don't remember if he couldn't handle it or he couldn't handle both of them, I think it was. And this business here, he had to get rid of because it was deteriorating a bit because it wasn't getting the service. It wasn't being handled for the service. In other words, his business had slipped a certain amount.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Seder and St. Charles put up some money to acquire this business?

Mr. Senator.

Yes, they put up the money; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

About how much money did they put up?

Mr. Senator.

I think they put up somewheres around $1,500 apiece, and I think they took a note for $1,500. I think the business went for $3,000, if I can remember right.

Mr. Griffin.

What assets, what kind of assets did they acquire?

Mr. Senator.

The cards.

Mr. Griffin.

No office space?

Mr. Senator.

No, no. See, he is in business in a little sort of a garage like in the back of his house. In the back of his house he has got this sort of garage-like thing.

Mr. Griffin.

Who are you talking about?

Mr. Senator.

The fellow that had it.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember what his name was?