Mrs. Voshinin.

So, before that, we broke our relationship, right? And we restored it after the trip.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, the trip came after Mr. Khrushchev had visited this country?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Visited this country. And it was 1961, I would say. They returned probably in 1961.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall the incident of the attempted and ill-fated invasion of Cuba?

Mrs. Voshinin.

You mean, that President Kennedy is----

Mr. Davis.

Bay of Pigs.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; the Bay of Pigs.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; I do remember that.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, when was this walking trip with respect to that event--at the same time, a little bit before, a little after?

Mrs. Voshinin.

You know, I couldn't say absolutely. I'm very bad on dates--and I don't remember even the date of the Bay of Pigs. When was that?

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you've put me in a bad spot.

Mr. Davis.

Well, it was in--shortly after 1960. It would be about March of 1960.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

The President was elected in November 1960.

Mr. Davis.

It was very shortly after that.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, the invasion of the Bay of Pigs occurred after the President's election, and my recollection is that it was in December, December of 1960, or January of 1961.

Mr. Davis.

I think it was probably about that time--or in February.

Mr. Jenner.

It was sometime very shortly after he took office. During the first 2 or 3 months of 1961. It wasn't long after he had been inaugurated and he was inaugurated January 9, I think it was, 1961.

Mr. Davis.

The 20th is inauguration.

Mr. Jenner.

Twentieth of January?

Mr. Davis.

Yes. I think it was in late February or early March.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, that's reasonably accurate.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Uh-huh. Maybe they were in Haiti at that time. I don't know really. Really, I'm afraid to say.

Mr. Jenner.

They might have been in Haiti?

Mrs. Voshinin.

In Haiti. Because I know that they told us that on the way back, they stopped for about a month in Haiti to get their breath--to rest a little.

Mr. Jenner.

On the way back from the Mexican walking trip?

Mrs. Voshinin.

From the Mexican walking trip; yes. They walked through Panama, from there they took airplane to Haiti and stayed there a month--and then came back.

Mr. Jenner.

Did they ever say anything or did you ever have the impression that they had visited Cuba?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No. But something--I think he did not visit Cuba. I believe he mentioned that his plane had to stop in Cuba, something like that, on the airport. But I'm not sure about that at all. I believe he said.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there a time when he visited Ghana?

Mrs. Voshinin.

There was; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, tell us about that.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Well, that was after he came back from Yugoslavia. I don't remember before or after he went second time to Yugoslavia. I think it was before he went second time to Yugoslavia. And I am pretty sure that he was in Ghana because he brought a newspaper--Ghana newspaper--and there was a picture, small picture. I didn't read the article, but I noticed there a line which said, "A well-known philatelist, George De Mohrenschildt"--which caught my eye. So, I thought, my God! That's one of George's antics again! [Laughter.]

Mr. Davis.

Was he a stamp collector?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No.

Mr. Davis.

And this article said he was?