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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 336« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Pauline Virginia Bates)

Mr. Jenner.
I am--when I have my secretary.
Mrs. Bates.
Yeah [laughter].
College students are notoriously bad spellers.
Mr. Jenner.
Particularly law students.
Mrs. Bates.
Well--no--particularly psychology majors. They're terrible!
Mr. Jenner.
Did you type all of his notes?
Mrs. Bates.
No; not even a third of them.
Mr. Jenner.
Tell me that circumstance.
Mrs. Bates.
Well, on the 20th, he came up and he was--uh---quite nervous. Uh--the other 2 days, he'd sit right there at my desk and--uh--if I needed to ask him anything, why I would. But this day, he was walking up and down and looking over my shoulder and wanting to know where I was--and, finally, I finished the 10th page. He said, "Now, Pauline, you told me what your charges were." He said, "This is 8 hours you've worked and 10 pages. I have $10 and no more money. And I can't let you go on."
And that's when I asked him if I couldn't go on and type the rest of them. I told him I'd do it for nothing, or if he got the money, why he could pay me.
And he said, "No, I don't work that way. I've got $10." And he pulled a $10 bill out of his pocket and walked out.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you in possession of these notes from day to day or did he take them back with him at night?
Mrs. Bates.
Oh, he took them with him. He never left anything. And he never left the office until he had picked up what I had typed---even the carbon paper.
Mr. Jenner.
Even the carbon paper?
Mrs. Bates.
Oh yeah. He took the carbon paper.
He did tell me that--I think it was the second day--that there was a man in Fort Worth--and he's an engineer. I can't remember. I've scratched my brain on that, too, trying to remember--I just saw the letterhead for a minute that was interested in having these notes put into book form--manuscript form.
Mr. Jenner.
Does the name George De Mohrenschildt refresh your recollection?
Mrs. Bates.
No. Uh--I just got a glimpse of the letterhead, and it didn't register with me.
Mr. Jenner.
But it sounded like a man who is an engineer?
Mrs. Bates.
He said he was an engineer--he told me that. But there's lots of engineers in----
Mr. Jenner.
Oh, yes.
Mrs. Bates.
And that he was interested in helping Lee get these notes published. And he said, of course, he would have to change names and things like that. He had actual Russian names of people he talked to. And in order to protect people, he'd have to change the names. But the man was willing to---uh--wanted to go ahead. He had read all the notes. I never did read all of them. Now, this is what Lee told me.
Mr. Jenner.
Lee told you that this other person----
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh, this engineer.
Mr. Jenner.
And the impression is yours that he was an engineer; had read all the notes.
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh. Lee told me he had shown him the notes.
Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh.
Mrs. Bates.
Now, I don't know whether he had read them all or not. Maybe I shouldn't say. He said, "I've shown him the notes." And the man could read and speak Russian.
Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh.
Mrs. Bates.
That much he did tell me.
And I just--uh--the next day when he came up was when he was real nervous and excited, sort of excited, like, I don't know. I'm afraid to say. I don't like to give impressions because they could be wrong.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Bates.
But he showed no emotion at any time. The man just never showed any emotion. He had the deadest eyes I ever saw.
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