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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 334« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Pauline Virginia Bates)

Mr. Jenner.
Were these 3 successive, days?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh; 18th, 19th, and 20th.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he spend substantially all day with you?
Mrs. Bates.
No; it was 8 hours altogether in the 3 days.
Mr. Jenner.
That was 8 hours that you worked, or 8 hours that he was there?
Mrs. Bates.
I worked. And--uh--I spent 8 hours typing 10 pages, single-spaced.
Mr. Jenner.
Which would indicate to me, as a lawyer, that you were having some trouble interpreting these notes?
Mrs. Bates.
Oh, he'd--he had to spell things out for me and--uh--it was partly in Russian. And he had to transpose it--I mean, translate it for me. And--uh--it was--uh--very difficult to read. A lot of it was scribbled. He would scribble notes and, then, to refresh his memory on it--he said he had to do it surreptitiously [witness pronounced word phonetically surreptiously], he just had to do it when Marina would cover for him while he was doing this.
Mr. Jenner.
Marina would cover for him?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh--muffle the tone of the typewriter and everything so people wouldn't know that he was--what he was doing.
Mr. Jenner.
And Marina was aware, then, according to what he said to you, that he was making these notes?
Mrs. Bates.
Well, evidently--because he said she would cover or watch for him so that nobody would know that he was making them.
Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh.
Mrs. Bates.
Kind of--try to steer anybody away while he was doing this----because he could have got in trouble.
Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh.
Mrs. Bates.
He didn't talk very much. He--well, there wasn't much time to talk when you're typing and trying to translate things like that. And he was very cool and----
Mr. Jenner.
Cool? You mean reserved?
Mrs. Bates.
Cold.
Mr. Jenner.
Cold?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Very matter of fact?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes; and if he didn't want to answer a question--if you asked him a question, no matter how simple it was, if he didn't want to answer it, he'd just shut up.
Mr. Jenner.
He'd just ignore you?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh.
He said he was living with his brother out in Arlington Heights. Well, I lived in Arlington Heights, and I recognized the area he lived in by the telephone number. I said, "Well, where do you live, Lee? I have lived out in that part of town."
He said, "Arlington Heights."
So--that's--that just closed the subject right there. He had nothing else to say. In other words--"Just don't say anything more."
And--uh--I didn't even know he had a mother. He never mentioned his mother. He mentioned his brother; he mentioned his wife said she liked it over here very much, that she got very ill from the food because it was too rich.
Mr. Jenner.
He said that she had become ill?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh. That she got the stomach ache, or something, because they hadn't had enough food in a long time.
Mr. Jenner.
Your impression was that they ----
Mrs. Bates.
He hadn't even been here a month, I don't think, when----
Mr. Jenner.
Well, he arrived June 12--so, he was only--when he reached your place, it was on the 18th. He had just been here 6 days.
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh.
It might help you to read that [referring to articles in local Fort Worth papers which witness brought with her].
Mr. Jenner.
Well, I will in a moment.
I want to get from you--what was his attitude toward Russia?
Mrs. Bates.
Well, he never did talk much about it, as far as that goes. But
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