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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 332« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Pauline Virginia Bates)

Mr. Jenner.
And since he had the T-shirt, he had no tie on?
Mrs. Bates.
No; didn't have a shirt on.
Mr. Jenner.
No shirt?
Mrs. Bates.
Just a little white T-shirt--undershirt.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Bates.
It was in June.
Mr. Jenner.
In June? What time of the day or night was it?
Mrs. Bates.
It was in the morning. Let's see---I turned those records over to the FBI.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, give me your best recollection.
Mrs. Bates.
I think it was around 10 or 11 o'clock in the morning, on the 18th of June 1962.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. What was said by him and by you?
Mrs. Bates.
He asked if I could do some typing for him.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he identify himself first?
Mrs. Bates.
No. He just walked in. It's not uncommon for people to walk in and say, "Miss Bates, can you do some typing for me?" And I said, "Yes, I could, what was it?" And he said it was--that he was--then, he told me he was Lee Oswald. He said, "First, I want to find out what your prices are and see if I can afford it." So, I gave him my price.
Mr. Jenner.
And what did you say?
Mrs. Bates.
I said it was either 2 1/2 an hour or a dollar a page.
Mr. Jenner.
A page being 8 1/2 by 11--letter-size sheets?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes; uh-huh. And I told him it all depended on what the work was and could I see what it was. And he said, "Yes." And he brought out this large manilla envelope, legal size oh, I think it was 10 by 14 or something--one of those large ones. And he said, "I have some notes here"
Mr. Jenner.
I have a folder here [showing to witness]---is that----
Mrs. Bates.
No; it's one of those that folds over from the top.
Mr. Jenner.
I appreciate that--but I'm holding this up only for size.
Mrs. Bates.
Oh ! Well, it's approximately that long, but it was a little wider.
Mr. Jenner.
The length of this, I think [measuring with ruler]--it's 15 inches.
Mrs. Bates.
Well, I have some up at my office. I use them all the time to, you know, send abstracts out in.
Mr. Jenner.
That's 15 by 9.
Mrs. Bates.
Well, I am sure, as I remember it---of course, now, this was some time ago---it was approximately 10 by 14 or 10 by 15--and it looks like what I use.
Mr. Jenner.
And it had a flap on it?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh. Just a regular seal at the top. I think they are Carrollton Clasp or something like that.
He said that he had notes that he had smuggled out of Russia. And I looked up at him kinda surprised. I said, "Have you been to Russia?"
He said, "Yes, ma'am. I just got back." And that he had smuggled these notes out of Russia under his clothes, next to his skin.
Mr. Jenner.
We fixed the time of this inquiry--didn't we?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes; June 18. I mean, when he first came in my office.
Mr. Jenner.
1962?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh.
And that he wanted to have them typed by a professional typist He said, "Some of them are typed on a little portable, some of 'em are handwritten in ink, some of 'em in pencil."
He said, "I'll have to sit right here with you and help you with 'em because some of 'em are in Russian and some of them are in English." So, we agreed that I would do it--but I hadn't seen them yet.
Mr. Jenner.
You hadn't seen the notes yet?
Mrs. Bates.
Huh-uh.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he have a package under his arm on that occasion?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes. He had it with him.
Mr. Jenner.
What agreement--you mean that you agreed that you would do it? Had you reached a conclusion as to the rate?
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