up at all with John. I mean we weren't invading anybody's privacy at all, and if he wanted to say something, he would say. And I know that she said that they were very upset because this put him over the barrel, and he has a family, and he was very embarrassed.

Mr. Liebeler.

John was?
Miss MURRET. Of course, and they had three children, and I mean it was in Stars and Stripes.

Mr. Liebeler.

John was in the Air Force at that time?
Miss MURRET. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You didn't bring the subject up of Lee at all as to why he went?
Miss MURRET. No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he indicate anything about his experiences in Russia other than what you have already told us?
Miss MURRET. The only thing he said was--I just didn't know any of this would happen, and I didn't know he would be leaving and I thought that he would say what he wanted to say, because I don't believe in bombarding somebody with questions, I really don't, and what they want to say, they say, and what they don't want to say, they don't say. So, anyway, he said that he had better quarters than the average person because he was an American, and they wanted to create a good impression on him. Other than about the family and showing me a few photographs, that is all he said. And he said that he had met Marina at this dance, and he worked in the factory.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you what kind of factory?
Miss MURRET. No; he didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you what he did?
Miss MURRET. No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you how much he was paid?
Miss MURRET. No; maybe he did, but I wouldn't know what it was, anyway.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you about any travels that he had in the Soviet Union?
Miss MURRET. Well, just that he said, and I don't know where he was going or where he was when he said it, that these people let him spend the night there and that they had less than he had. So if that was on the outskirts, or where it was, I don't really know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you speak Russian?
Miss MURRET. No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you speak any foreign language?
Miss MURRET. I studied French and Spanish, but was hopeless.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you about any school that he might have gone to when he was in Russia, any training that he might have gotten?
Miss MURRET. No sir; he didn't say anything at all about any kind of training. When he first came out, I couldn't understand how he had gotten out, in the first place.

Mr. Liebeler.

How he had gotten out of Russia to come back, you mean?
Miss MURRET. With a Russian wife, and he did say her father was---was he a Russian officer? Anyway----

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he say her father----
Miss MURRET. He was, or she might have said that in her broken English, so I couldn't conceive of how they had gotten out of Russia, and how he had access to Russia, I mean to work there, et cetera, and then just to be allowed to leave, with a Russian wife, and her father being in the Army. And I think that she had an uncle--I don't know--but I think it was in the papers, or in some magazine recently that he is with the Intelligence Service in Russia.

Mr. Liebeler.

Her uncle?
Miss MURRET. Yes; he, supposedly, was the one who helped him to get out. So, that I couldn't figure out.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ask him about it? Did you ask Lee about that?
Miss MURRET. Yes; and he said he'd had a tough time. That is about the only thing I did ask him, and he said he'd had a very difficult time getting out, and he had to wait for a particular length of time until everything went through, and he knew that since, or if he had not had a wife, he could have gotten out sooner, but he had to wait on her papers, and by that time they'd had

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