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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 51« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Gerald Lynn Hill)

Mr. Belin.
Would it be Barrett?
Mr. Hill.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
Do you remember his first name?
Mr. Hill.
Bob was identified to me later in the day by Captain Westbrook. Came in from, I presume they came in from the north fire exit, which would have actually been coming in from outside, and came over to us, and Captain Westbrook instructed us to get the man out of there as soon as possible.
And at the same time instructed some of the other uniform officers to stay there and protect the scene, and call the crime lab. This was the actual scene where the arrest was made.
Mr. Belin.
Let me stop you right there. Do you know how this FBI agent happened to be there at the time?
Mr. Hill.
I heard later, and--but not actually to my own knowledge, that he was riding with Captain Westbrook.
To my knowledge, I don't know this, but I understand he had ridden out from town with Captain Westbrook, that he was gravitating toward the incident in Oak Cliff, and had arrived at the theatre just possibly before we came in, or fight after we went in, and was still outside.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mr. Hill.
We started moving the suspect down the aisle, which would have been walking him north to the exit on that side until we got to the aisle that would have been dividing the center section and the north section of the theatre.
And there we formed a more or less wedge formation with C. T. Walker in front, Bob Carroll, I believe was on the suspect's left, K. E. Lyons was on his right, and Paul Bentley and I were to the rear.
I was on the left. I would have been .to the suspect's left-rear side.
Paul Bentley would have been to the right-rear side.
At this point this is the first time I remember encountering any newspaper-men or cameras, but as we walked into the lobby there was a man shooting movies.
Mr. Belin.
Movies?
Mr. Hill.
He was from channel 8, but who he was, I don't know. He was a short, rather heavy-set fellow with kinky hair. This I remember about him.
We walked the suspect out the right front or the north door. No, wait a minute, we have lost our directions again. We walked him out the west door of the theatre into a squad car, which was out front. Some of the officers that were still outside had the crowd parted back to where nobody got to us or to the suspect.
But there were shouts at this time from the crowd of, "That is him. We ought to kill him. String him up. Hang him.", et cetera and so on.
Mr. Belin.
Any other calls from the crowd?
Mr. Hill.
Not that I can recall. There was quite a bit of confusion, but we kept moving.
Mr. Belin.
Let me stop you right there. You mentioned that when you were coming down from the balcony to the first floor, or in the process of going into the first floor, you heard an officer or someone yell something along the effect, "I've got him."
Mr. Hill.
Right.
Mr. Belin.
Did you hear anyone else yell or make any other statements?
First, I will ask you this. Did you hear the suspect make any statement of any kind?
Mr. Hill.
Not any distinguishable statement that I can specifically recall. Later in the course of trying to piece this thing together for a report, I believe it was McDonald and Hutson that stated, and we put it in the report that way, that the suspect yelled, "This is it."
Mr. Belin.
Did you hear that with your own ears? That you can remember?
Mr. Hill.
No, sir; not as a distinguishable specific "This is it," no. As much confusion and all going on, I didn't distinguish that. Now if we can back up a little bit to where we made the, got him handcuffed in the theatre, before we started moving out with him, he started, Oswald or the suspect at this point, we didn't know who he was, so we will keep on calling him the suspect,
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