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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 504« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Helen Markham)

Mrs. Markham.
No; it is not.
Mr. Liebeler.
This is not the same voice?
Mrs. Markham.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
How do you explain the fact that the woman's voice on this tape recording is your voice?
Mrs. Markham.
I never heard that.
Mr. Liebeler.
You never heard the man's voice before?
Mrs. Markham.
And I never heard this lady's voice before--this is the first time.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you have any doubt in your mind at all that the lady's voice on the tape now is your voice?
Mrs. Markham.
It is my voice, but this man told me he was from the city police.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did it occur to you as you were talking to him--when he said for example, on the tape here just a few minutes ago, did you tell the officers--you told this person you were talking to on this tape that you-saw the police car stop and that this man walked over to the car and that the officer had rolled the window down and this man's voice said you did not put in the affidavit that you had seen the officer roll the window down.
Mrs. Markham.
Man, I have never heard such a thing as this.
Mr. Liebeler.
At the bottom of page 6 he says, "I see. Now, did you tell the officers at the police station, when they questioned you, the description of the man who shot Tippit?"
You couldn't have thought was from the police department if he was asking you what you were telling the police before---do you agree with me?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes; but he told me he was from the police department and he had to get some information from me and I wanted to get back to my work.
Mr. Liebeler.
So, it is your testimony that even though you engaged in this conversation here, the man--when he started out, he told you that he was from the police department; is that right?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir; I wouldn't have never talked to this man. Just like if I get a telephone call I say, "You know where I am at, come down to see me." He told me he was from the police department and this lady never talked to me.
Mr. Liebeler.
Which lady is that?
Mrs. Markham.
On this tape.
Mr. Liebeler.
Which lady on the tape?
Mrs. Markham.
It was a woman talking.
Mr. Liebeler.
The lady's voice that was talking on the tape here?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
I thought that was your voice?
Mrs. Markham.
Not at the first there.
Mr. Liebeler.
Not at the first--you mean the telephone operator, the one that was the telephone operator? The tape here indicates that the long-distance telephone operator or some telephone operator called you to the telephone and a man answered the telephone.
Mrs. Markham.
No; my boss called me to the telephone.
Mr. Liebeler.
So, when you came to the telephone it was this man on the telephone and he told you that he was from the police department?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
And then you engaged in this telephone conversation?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes; he certainly did.
Mr. Liebeler.
So that, in fact, your testimony is that you had never had anybody introduce themselves to you as Mark Lane?
Mrs. Markham.
No, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you haven't talked to him over the telephone?
Mrs. Markham.
No, sir; and so help me [raising right hand] I did not.
Mr. Liebeler.
You don't have any doubt, however, that you did engage in this particular conversation, except that you are having trouble at the beginning and end of it because you said that the man told you that he was from the police department when he called?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir ; he certainly did. I know he did.
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