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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 32« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Thomas Alexander Hutson)

Mr. Hutson.
Visibility was poor.
Mr. Belin.
Then what did you see happen?
Mr. Hutson.
I Saw McDonald down in the he seat beside this person, and this person was in a half standing crouching position pushing down on the left side of McDonald's face, and McDonald was trying to push him off.
Mr. Belin.
This person was right-handed? You have used a motion here that he was pushing on the left side of McDonald's face?
Mr. Hutson.
Right.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mr. Hutson.
And McDonald was trying to hold him off with his hand.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mr. Hutson.
I reached over from the back of the seat with my right arm and put it around this person's throat.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mr. Hutson.
And pulled him back up on the back of the seat that he was originally sitting in.
At this time Officer C. T. Walker came up in the same row of seats that the struggle was taking place in and grabbed this person's left hand and held it.
Mr. Belin.
Okay.
Mr. Hutson.
McDonald was at this time simultaneously trying to hold this person's right hand. Somehow this person moved his right hand to his waist, and I saw a revolver come out, and McDonald was holding on to it with his right hand, and this gun was waving up toward the back of the seat like this.
Mr. Belin.
Now you had your left hand, or was it McDonald's left hand, on the suspect's right hand?
Mr. Hutson.
McDonald was using both of his hands to hold onto this person's right hand.
Mr. Belin.
Okay.
Mr. Hutson.
And the gun was waving around towards the back of the seat, up and down, and I heard a snapping sound at one time.
Mr. Belin.
What kind of snapping sound was it?
Mr. Hutson.
Sounded like the snap of a pistol, to me, when a pistol snaps.
Mr. Belin.
Do you know which way the pistol was pointing when you heard the snap?
Mr. Hutson.
Was pointing toward the back of the seat.
Mr. Belin.
It was pointing toward the back of the seat?
Mr. Hutson.
Yes; toward the screen in the front of the theatre, in that direction.
Mr. Belin.
Wait a minute, now. Toward the screen?
Mr. Hutson.
Right.
Mr. Belin.
Toward the front of the theatre, or the back of the theatre?
Mr. Hutson.
Toward the front of the theatre, we will call, facing the screen.
Mr. Belin.
Was it aiming at anyone in particular?
Mr. Hutson.
No; not any officer in particular. The only one that could have came in the line of fire was Officer Ray Hawkins, who was walking up in the row of seats in front.
Mr. Belin.
Did you hear any people say anything? Did you hear the suspect say anything?
Mr. Hutson.
I don't remember hearing anybody say anything.
Mr. Belin.
Did you hear Officer McDonald say anything?
Mr. Hutson.
No.
Mr. Belin.
You are shaking your head no.
Mr. Hutson.
No, sir.
Mr. Belin.
All right, what happened then?
Mr. Hutson.
The gun was taken from the suspect's hand by Officer McDonald and somebody else. I couldn't say exactly. They were all in on the struggle, and Officer Hawkins, in other words, he simultaneously, we decided to handcuff him.
We had restrained him after the pistol was taken, but he was still resisting arrest, and we stood him up and I let go of his neck at this time and took hold
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