Mr. Haygood.

Street, and in the process of making a left turn onto Elm Street I could see all these people laying on the ground there on Elm. Some of them were pointing back up to the railroad yard, and a couple of people were headed back up that way, and I immediately tried to jump the north curb there in the 400 block, which was too high for me to get over.

Mr. Belin.

You mean with your motorcycle?

Mr. Haygood.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

All right.

Mr. Haygood.

And I left my motor on the street and ran to the railroad yard.

Mr. BELIN. Now when you ran to the railroad yard, would that be north or south of Elm?

Mr. Haygood.

The railroad yard would be located at the---it consists of going over Elm Street and back north of Elm Street.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do when you got there?

Mr. Haygood.

Well, there was nothing. There was quite a few people in the area, spectators, and at that time I went back to my motorcycle it was on the street--to the radio.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see any people running away from there?

Mr. Haygood.

No. They was all going to it.

Mr. Belin.

Did you talk to any people over there or not?

Mr. HAYGOOD. In the railroad yard, I talked to one of the people I presumed to be a railroad detective that was in the yard.

Mr. Belin.

Had he been in the yard before or not?

Mr. Haygood.

No. He was just coming into the area after I was.

Mr. Belin.

He was coming into the area after the shooting?

Mr. Haygood.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say anything to you, that you remember?

Mr. Haygood.

Nothing that I remember.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. Haygood.

I went back to my motorcycle, which was sitting on Elm Street.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. HAYGOOD. At that time some people came up and started talking to me as to the shooting.

Mr. Belin.

What did they say?
Mr. HAYGOOD. One Stated that he had seen the President when the first shot was fired, and that he definitely was hit.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say where the shot came from?

Mr. HAYGOOD. And I asked him about where the shots came from, and he stated that he didn't know, that he was looking at him when the first shot was fired, and that he slumped. And when the second shot was fired, he went completely out of sight.

Mr. Belin.

You talked to any other witnesses there?
Mr. HAYGOOD. Yes. There was another one came up who was located, at the time he stated, on the south side of Elm Street back toward the triple underpass. Back, well, it would be north of the underpass there, and said he had gotten hit by a piece of concrete or something, and he did have a slight cut on his right cheek, upper portion of his cheek just to the right of his nose.
Mr. BELIN. Would he have been to the front or to the back of the Presidential car at the time of the shot?

Mr. Haygood.

I don't know what you mean to the front or the back.
Mr. BELIN. When he was standing, was he to the west or to the east of the President's car at the time of the shooting?

Mr. Haygood.

He would be to the south of it and then west.

Mr. Belin.

Southwest of it?

Mr. Haygood.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Talk to anyone else?

Mr. HAYGOOD. And at that time, approximately, well, I was talking to him at the time this other man came up and told me that he didn't know what it was about, but he was quite sure the shot had come from this building there which he pointed out to be the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say why?

Mr. Haygood.

He said when the-first shot was fired he glanced back and