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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 68« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Robert A. Frazier)

Mr. Frazier.
Service again, to Special Agent Orrin Bartlett of the FBI who delivered it to me at 11:50 p.m. on November 22, 1963.
Mr. Specter.
Are the records which you have just referred to relating to the chain of possession of Exhibits 567 and 569 maintained by you in the normal course of your duties as an examiner of those items?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
Mr. Frazier, is it possible for the fragments identified in Commission Exhibit 840 to have come from the whole bullet heretofore identified as Commission Exhibit 399?
Mr. Frazier.
I would say that based on weight it would be highly improbable that that much weight could have come from the base of that bullet since its present weight is--its weight when I first received it was 158.6 grains.
Mr. Specter.
Referring now to 399.
Mr. Frazier.
Exhibit 399, and its original normal weight would be 160 to 161 grains, and those three metal fragments had a total of 2.1 grains as I recall--2.3 grains. So it is possible but not likely since there is only a very small part of the core of the bullet 399 missing.
Mr. Specter.
Have you now described all of the bullet fragments which you found in the President's automobile?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
Was it your job to analyze all of the bullets or bullet fragments which were found in the President's car?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes; it was, except for the spectrographic analysis of the composition.
Mr. Specter.
Have you now described all of the bullet fragments which were brought to you by anyone else and identified as having been found in the President's car?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; not this morning but at previous times during my testimony I have; yes.
Mr. Specter.
But then there is on the record now all of the identification of the metallic or bullet fragments found in connection with your examination of the President's car or which were examined by you after having been found by someone else?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir. There is one other, it is not a metal particle but it is a residue of metal on the inside of the windshield.
Mr. Specter.
Aside from that residue of the windshield which I am going to come to now, have we placed on the record a description of all of the bullets or bullet fragments?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
Now---
Mr. Dulles.
Just one moment. You mean bullet fragments related to the car or bullet fragments found anywhere?
Mr. Specter.
Related to the President's automobile.
Mr. Frazier.
Yes; you have.
Mr. Specter.
Did you have occasion then to examine the windshield of the Presidential limousine?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes; I did.
Mr. Specter.
What did that examination disclose?
Mr. Frazier.
On the inside surface of the windshield there was a deposit of lead. This deposit was located when you look at the inside surface of the windshield, 13 1/2 inches down from the top, 23 inches from the left-hand side or driver's side of the windshield, and was immediately in front of a small pattern of star-shaped cracks which appeared in the outer layer of the laminated windshield.
Mr. Dulles.
What do you mean by the "outer layer of the laminated windshield"?
Mr. Frazier.
The windshield is composed of two layers with a very thin layer of plastic in between which bonds them together in the form of safety glass. The inside layer of the glass was not broken, but the outside layer immediately on the outside of the lead residue had a very small pattern of cracks and there was a very minute particle of glass missing from the outside surface.
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