Mr. Mcvickar.

Department of State which was dated on August 28, 1961, and so I am confident that this interview must have taken place in say the week before that.
I departed from the Soviet Union about the 1st of September, and things were pretty busy, and I can't remember very much more about it than I can see here in the record.
I do not really remember this interview, and I can only speak about it on the basis of the record.

Mr. Coleman.

Isn't it possible that you saw her on July 11, 1961?

Mr. Mcvickar.

No; because I think what happened, and I think this is reflected in the record. I think what happened was that Oswald himself came into Moscow and was interviewed by Mr. Snyder on July 10, and that he did not have his wife with him, and that he said that he was going to try to get his wife to come to Moscow in the next few days, so that she could be interviewed in connection with the visa, but that in fact she did not appear until several weeks later, some time in August.

Mr. Coleman.

Are you certain about this, sir?

Mr. Mcvickar.

This is the best of my recollection, and I am pretty sure that I read something in the record yesterday that indicates that she was not in Moscow at the time he was interviewed by Mr. Snyder in July of 1961.

Mr. Coleman.

Wasn't it possible that Mr. Snyder talked to Mr. Oswald on July 8, which was a Saturday, and that Mrs. Oswald appeared at the Embassy with Oswald on July the 10th, or on July 11th, 2 or 3 days later?

Mr. Mcvickar.

I won't say that it is not possible, and as I say, I don't remember this. But I very much doubt that I would have interviewed somebody in the middle of July and have not written to the State Department about it until the end of August, and I say that honestly. That was not the way we operated.

Mr. Coleman.

You referred to some handwritten notes you saw in the file. I would like to show you Commission Exhibit No. 945 and ask you whether that is the copy of the notes that you were referring to?

Mr. Mcvickar.

That is the copy of them. I do not believe they are dated, and it was with a ballpoint pen. I made this copy for myself from the copy that is in the file.

Mr. Chayes.

Would it be appropriate to point out that there seems to be more on your copy than on his copy?

Mr. Mcvickar.

No, these are my own notes. This is exactly what it is here.

Mr. Coleman.

Sir, I take it that Commission Exhibit No. 945 is some notes you took at a time when you had an interview with Marina Oswald, is that correct?

Mr. Mcvickar.

Yes.

Mr. Coleman.

Now you have a notation "was not Komsomol." What does that mean?

Mr. Mcvickar.

That I am confident means that I asked her whether she was a member of the Komsomol, which is the Communist youth organization, and this would have been an ordinary question for me to ask a visa applicant because this had some bearing on her admissibility to the United States under the immigration law, and I Was apparently satisfied from what she said she was not. There is no other way of really establishing it under such circumstances.

Mr. Dulles.

Did she say whether she had at anytime been a member of the Komsomol?
Mr. McVICKAR I would have undoubtedly phrased my question in such a way as to cover that point, I think.

Mr. Coleman.

Did you ask her whether she was a member of any particular Communist organization?

Mr. Mcvickar.

Yes; and I believe that, as I stated in this report to the Department of State, and I think it appears a little bit in here, that she was a member of a Profcoes, which is probably a combination of English and Russian, but this would have been a labor union, and she apparently was a member of the medical workers labor union when she was in the technical school, and then later in her work since 1957, it says here.

Mr. Coleman.

When you had this interview wouldn't she then have