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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 36« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
I heard you mention the Texas School Depository warehouse Did you think the warehouse was at 411 Elm?
Mrs. Paine.
No. I had seen a sign on a building as I went along one of the limited access highways that leads into Dallas, saying "Texas School Book Depository Warehouse" and there was the only building that had registered on my consciousness as being Texas School Book Depository.
I was not aware, hadn't taken in the idea of there being two buildings and that there was one on Elm, though, I copied the address from the telephone book, and could well have made that notation in my mind but I didn't.
The first I realized that there was a building on Elm was when I heard on the television on the morning of the 22d of November that a shot had been fired from such a building.
Mr. Jenner.
For the purpose of this record then I would like to emphasize you were under the impression then, were you, that Lee Harvey Oswald was employed?
Mrs. Paine.
At the warehouse.
Mr. Jenner.
Other than at 411, a place at 411 Elm?
Mrs. Paine.
I thought he worked at the warehouse. I had in fact, pointed out the building to my children going into Dallas later after he had gained employment.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever discuss with Lee Harvey Oswald where he actually was employed, that is the location of the building?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I didn't.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he ever mention it?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
There never was any discussion between you and, say, young Mr. Frazier or Mrs. Randle or anyone in the neighborhood as to where the place of employment is located?
Mrs. Paine.
No. It may be significant here to say, my letter to which I have already referred--
Mr. Jenner.
Commission Exhibit No.
Mrs. Paine.
425, which says, "Lee Oswald is looking for work in Dallas, does not give a time of day.
Mr. Jenner.
What is the date of that letter?
Mrs. Paine.
October 14, Monday.
Mr. Jenner.
This is the letter to your mother?
Mrs. Paine.
But I don't normally write letters any time except when the children are asleep, they sometimes nap but usually this is in the evening.
If it were in the evening it means that he had gotten the suggestion as to a place to apply, but I didn't mention that. I only mentioned that he was looking and was discouraged.
I bring this out simply to say that I had no real hopes that he would get a job at the School Book Depository.
I didn't think it too likely that he would, but it was worth a try.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you hear from him then either on the 14th or 15th in respect to his effort to obtaining employment at the Texas School Depository?
Mrs. Paine.
He called immediately on Tuesday, the 15th, after he had been accepted and said he would start work the next day.
Mr. Jenner.
When you say immediately, what time of day was that?
Mrs. Paine.
Midmorning I would say, which was contrary to his usual practice of calling in the early evening.
Mr. Jenner.
By the way, is the call from Dallas, Tex., to Irving a toll call?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
What is its cost, 10 cents?
Mrs. Paine.
I expect so.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you answer the phone on the occasion he called?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
What happened?
Mrs. Paine.
He asked for Marina.
Mr. Jenner.
He said nothing to you about his success?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
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