Mr. Scoggins.

Well, by that time there was more policemen there than you can shake a stick at. They were all over that place, and we stopped the cab.

Mr. Belin.

At about what time, do you know offhand?

Mr. Scoggins.

About 1:30, I guess, approximately 1:30; between 1:30 and 1:35, I would say. We cruised around several blocks looking for him, and we--one of these police cars came by and this fellow who was with me stopped it, and we got back in the car and went back up to the scene, and he give them the pistol, and that time is when I found out he wasn't an officer.

Mr. Belin.

Then what happened, or what did you do?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, they was questioning a lot of people and questioning everybody, and they was talking, and so I went back and got on my radio and contacted my supervisor, and they wanted me to come into the office and make a statement, and so I did, the cab company. One of the supervisors got a statement of it, and he asked me did the police, did I give them a statement, and I told him no because, and he said, "Well, why didn't you?"I said, "They didn't ask me. They talked with everybody else."
So the next day they took me down and put me through a lineup, showed me a lineup of four people, and I identified the one that I had seen the day before.

Mr. Belin.

Now, let me ask you this question. First of all, do you remember, or can you describe the man you saw on November 22 with the gun?

Mr. Scoggins.

He was a medium-height fellow with, kind of a slender look, and approximately, I said 25, 26 years old, somewhere along there.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember the color of his hair?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes. It was light; let's see, was it light or not-medium brown, I would say.

Mr. Belin.

Pardon?

Mr. Scoggins.

Medium brown, I would say--now, wait a minute. Now, medium brown or dark.

Mr. Belin.

Medium brown or dark hair?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Was he a Negro or a white man?

Mr. Scoggins.

White, light complected, not real brown.

Mr. Belin.

Was he fat, average build or thin?

Mr. Scoggins.

No, he was slender; not real slender, but you know--

Mr. Belin.

Was he wearing glasses or not?

Mr. Scoggins.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Pardon?

Mr. Scoggins.

No.
BELIN. That he had on?

Mr. Scoggins.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else you remember about him, the color of his shoes?

Mr. Scoggins.

No, I can't say that.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember any jewelry he might have had on?
SCOGGINS. No.

Mr. Belin.

You say you went down to the police station when, Mr. Scoggins, approximately?

Mr. Scoggins.

You mean the time of day it was?

Mr. Belin.

Was it the same day of the shooting or the next day?

Mr. Scoggins.

No, it was the next day.

Mr. Belin.

Morning, afternoon, or evening, if you remember?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, the best I can remember, they called me down from the cab stand, the police came down to the office and picked me up. Well, the other guy--I was close to the downtown area, and it didn't take me long to get there, and I waited quite a while before the other man, he was quite out a ways, and it was before dinner.

Mr. Belin.

It was before dinner?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes, whenever they called me in.

Mr. Belin.

Would it have been on the afternoon of November 23, to the best of your recollection?

Mr. Scoggins.

When they took me down there it was along about dinner time.