Mr. Jenner.

On the occasion that he told you he had been in Houston looking for a job?

Mrs. Paine.

The 4th, he hitchhiked out.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.
It is that occasion that I have in mind.
What did he have with him in the way of luggage?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall certainly. It does seem to me that I remember he, took the zipper bag on Monday, the following Monday, with him to town, along with some clothes over his arm, ironed. shirts, things that are hung on hangers.

Mr. Jenner.

With respect to that trip--

Mrs. Paine.

You must remember I was shopping when he arrived on the afternoon of the 4th.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

So I didn't see him when he arrived that moment.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do have a recollection of having seen the zipper bag on Monday?

Mrs. Paine.

The 7th.

Mr. Jenner.

When you took him to the bus terminal for the purpose of his returning to downtown Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

To find a room and live there and have sufficient clothing there. That is my best recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that the first time you had seen the zipper bag?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

From the time you had left New Orleans on the 23d?

Mrs. Paine.

So far as I recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you notice anything else in the way of pieces of luggage in your home after you came back from the shopping center that afternoon of October 4th that hadn't been there prior to his arrival?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

The only piece of luggage of which you have any recollection then is the zipper bag which you saw him take with him when he left on Monday morning, the 7th

Mrs. Paine.

And that is, I would not say a certain recollection. But that is the best I have.

Mr. Jenner.

It is your best recollection anyhow?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, when you returned to your home did you have any discussion with Marina about Lee's departure and his future plans and her understanding of them?

Mrs. Paine.

No; nothing I recall specifically.

Mr. Jenner.

None at all.

What discussion went on between you and Marina, that is the subject matter with respect to his weekend visits?

Mrs. Paine.

She wanted to be certain it was all right for him to come out, you know that it wasn't too much of an imposition on me. We got into discussing his efforts to find a job. Then Monday, the 14th as best as I recall, was the first time we talked about him, more than to say it was too bad he didn't find something. This is the--

Mr. Jenner.

During the course of the week was there discussion between you and Marina respecting Lee Oswald's attempt at employment?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, there came an occasion, did there not, that weekend or the following weekend at which there was a discussion at least by you with some neighbors with respect to efforts to obtain employment for Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

As best I can reconstruct it this was, while having coffee at my immediate neighbors, Mrs. Ed Roberts, and also present was Mrs. Bill Randle, and Lee had said over the weekend that he had gotten the last of the unemployment compensation checks that were due him, and that it had been smaller than the others had been, and disappointing in its smallness and he looked very discouraged when he went to look for work.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything about amount?