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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 308« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Helen Markham)

Mr. Ball.
Which way did he walk?
Mrs. Markham.
Towards the front of the car. And just as he had gotten even with the wheel on the driver's side--
Mr. Ball.
You mean the left front wheel?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes; this man shot the policeman.
Mr. Ball.
You heard the shots, did you?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
How many shots did you hear?
Mrs. Markham.
Three.
Mr. Ball.
What did you see the policeman do?
Mrs. Markham.
He fell to the ground, and his cap went a little ways out on the street.
Mr. Ball.
What did the man do?
Mrs. Markham.
The man, he just walked calmly, fooling with his gun.
Mr. Ball.
Toward what direction did he walk?
Mrs. Markham.
Come back towards me, turned around, and went back.
Mr. Ball.
Toward Patton?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir; towards Patton. He didn't run. It just didn't scare him to death. He didn't run. When he saw me he looked at me, stared at me. I put my hands over my face like this, closed my eyes. I gradually opened my fingers like this, and 1 opened my eyes, and when I did he started off in kind of a little trot.
Mr. Ball.
Which way?
Mrs. Markham.
Sir?
Mr. Ball.
Which way?
Mrs. Markham.
Towards Jefferson, right across that way.
Mr. Dulles.
Did he have the pistol in his hand at this time?
Mrs. Markham.
He had the gun when I saw him.
Mr. Ball.
Did you yell at him?
Mrs. Markham.
When I pulled my fingers down where I could see, I got my hand down, he began to trot off, and then I ran to the policeman.
Mr. Ball.
Before you put your hands over your eyes, before you put your hand over your eyes, did you see the man walk towards the corner?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
What did he do?
Mrs. Markham.
Well, he stared at me.
Mr. Ball.
What did you do?
Mrs. Markham.
I didn't do anything. I couldn't.
Mr. Ball.
Didn't you say something?
Mrs. Markham.
No, I couldn't.
Mr. Ball.
Or yell or scream
Mrs. Markham.
I could not. I could not say nothing.
Mr. Ball.
You looked at him?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
You looked at him
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir. He looked wild. I mean, well, he did to me.
Mr. Ball.
And you say you saw him fooling with his gun?
Mrs. Markham.
He had it in his hands.
Mr. Ball.
Did you see what he was doing with it?
Mrs. Markham.
He was just fooling with it. I didn't know what he was doing. I was afraid he was fixing to kill me.
Mr. Ball.
How far away from the police car do you think you were on the corner when you saw the shooting?
Mrs. Markham.
Well, I wasn't too far.
Mr. Ball.
Can you estimate it in feet? Don't guess.
Mrs. Markham.
I would just be afraid to say how many feet because I am a bad judgment on that.
Mr. Ball.
When you looked at the man, though, when he came toward the corner, you were standing on one corner, were you?
Mrs. Markham.
Yes, sir
Mr. Ball.
Where was he standing with reference to the other corner?
Mrs. Markham.
After he had shot--
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