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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 149« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Howard Leslie Brennan)

Mr. Brennan.
Well, at that time, I calculated 110-foot at an angle. But closer surveillance I believe it will run close to 122 to 126 feet at an angle.
Mr. Belin.
I believe that on Friday we paced the distance between the place where you were sitting and the front door of the Texas School Book Depository Building, and it ran about--
Mr. Brennan.
93-foot.
Representative Ford.
This doesn't have to be now, but I think some time he ought to step by step on a diagram trace his movements from the restaurant until he left the scene of the shooting.
Mr. Belin.
On that particular diagram, Congressman Ford, which is Exhibit No. 361, the intersection of Main and Houston, and of Record and Main is not shown. It would be a little bit to the south.
Representative Ford.
But he might be able to show the direction from which he came to get on to the scene.
Mr. Belin.
Yes; that he can do.
Representative Ford.
And then his movements from there on until he left the area. I think it would be very helpful to tie down the precise places he was from time to time.
Mr. Belin.
I think he might do that right now.
Mr. BRENNAN, I place in front of you Exhibit 361, and I call to your attention that the top appears to be south rather than north, and the arrow north is pointed towards the bottom. And you will notice at the top here, running in what would be an east-west direction, is Elm Street. And you can see running in a north- south direction Houston Street, with the Texas School Book Depository Building noted here in black.
Do you see that?
Mr. Brennan.
It should be here.
Mr. Belin.
I will turn the map around to show you north and south; we can keep it upside down for the moment.
This is Elm Street. To the north is Pacific. Main would be down here off the bottom of the map. And here is Record Street right here. And I believe you said you were at lunch at Record and Main, and then you walked to the south.
I wonder if you might take this pen and kind of, off the street markings, you might start maybe down here at the bottom as to where you had your lunch.
Mr. Brennan.
This is Main here.
Mr. Belin.
Main would be running there, yes. If you would, put a "D" at that point.
Now, if you would kind of on a line trace your course that you took that day.
All right.
Mr. Brennan.
I didn't go to the corner.
Mr. Belin.
You didn't go to the corner of Elm and Houston. That would be the southeast corner?
Mr. Brennan.
I noticed this man having a fit. And I came across at this corner.
Mr. Belin.
Now, would you put the letter "E" where you ended up sitting.

This is on Exhibit No. 361.
Mr. Brennan.
"E"?
Mr. Belin.
Yes.
Mr. Brennan.
I believe that would be just about where the retainer wall is.
Mr. Belin.
All right.

So you have put on Exhibit 361 the letter "E" where you were sitting facing the School Book Depository Building.
Representative Ford.
I think that it might be helpful to trace it where he went subsequent to that. Mr. BELIN. All right.
Subsequent to the time of the shooting, would you put a line from your point at point "E" to where you went to talk to the police officers and the Secret Service officers?
Mr. Brennan.
The retaining wall come around here and straight across here.
Mr. Belin.
Will you put an "F" where you talked to him?
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