Mr. Jenner.

But you could have said that the license number could have been observed by Marina from her bedroom?

Mrs. Paine.

My recollection of this, that it was not a telephone interview.

Mr. Jenner.

Telephone or otherwise, there was an interview of you at which you made that statement, that Marina could have seen the license?

Mrs. Paine.

That Marina could have?

Mr. Jenner.

You do recall the incident. You don't recall whether it was at your home or whether it was by telephone?

Mrs. Paine.

I certainly recall talking with Agent Hosty and on at least one occasion about how that license number got in Oswald's possession.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall a telephone interview by an FBI agent Lee, Ivan D. Lee on the 28th of December 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

The name is not familiar to me. A great many FBI agents--

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall an incident in which you reported to an FBI agent that you had just talked with a reporter from the Houston Post?

Mrs. Paine.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

You recall that?

Mrs. Paine.

I do.

Mr. Jenner.

Now during the course of that interview, you made reference to a newspaper reporter, did you not?

Mrs. Paine.

I did. His name is Lonny Hudkins.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you say that the reporter whom you have now identified had advised you that Lee Harvey Oswald's mother had been working for a party in Forth Worth during September and October 1962 as a practical nurse, and according to the reporter, Mrs. Oswald, mother of Lee Harvey Oswald, advised this party during her employment that her son was doing important anti-subversive work?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please relate that incident so we will have the facts insofar as you participated in them stated of record?

Mrs. Paine.

I will. I would not have recalled the date, but I knew it to be toward the end of 1963. I was called on the telephone by Lonny Hudkins, whom I had never met, announced himself as from the Houston Post, said there was a matter of some importance that he wanted to talk with me about, could he come out to the house? And he then indicated the nature of what he wanted to talk about to the extent very accurately reported in what you have just read. I called the FBI really to see if they could advise me in dealing with this man. It struck me as a very unresponsible thing to print, and I wanted to be able to convince Hudkins of that fact. I was hopeful that they might be willing to
make a fiat denial to him, or in some way prevent the confusion that would have been caused by his printing this.
Now shall I go on to tell about the encounter which followed with Mr. Hudkins, and something of that content?

Mr. Jenner.

I am a little at a loss. Why don't you start because I can't anticipate.

Mrs. Paine.

Whether it is important?

Mr. Jenner.

You haven't related this to me. Are these statements you made to the FBI that you are about to relate?

Mrs. Paine.

If they asked. I don't recall specifically. I certainly recall that the content of the telephone conversation reported there is accurate and is in sum the conversation that then followed with Lonny Hudkins too, except that it doesn't say what I said in the situation.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you report to the FBI that Mr. Hudkins had said to you that the primary purpose of seeing you was an effort to get some confirmation if possible of the possibility Oswald was actually working on behalf of the United States Government prior to the assassination?

Mrs. Paine.

I was aware that was his purpose.

Mr. Jenner.

That you knew of no such situation, and ventured the opinion to the reporter that the story was wholly unlikely, that you could not imagine anyone having that much confidence in Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

That is accurate. I went on to say that Mrs. Oswald senior, Mrs. Marguerite Oswald, could well have said to this matron a full year back