Mr. Mcwatters.

Just like I say, I remember he had on, to me he had on just work clothes, he didn't have on a suit of clothes, and some type of jacket. I would say a cloth jacket.
Senator COOPER. I believe that is all.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't--as I understand it, when you were at the police lineup, you told us that you didn't--weren't able to identify this man in the lineup as the man who got off, that you gave the transfer to.

Mr. Mcwatters.

I told them to the best of my knowledge, I said the man that I picked out was the same height, about the same height, weight and description. But as far as actually saying that is the man I couldn't--

Mr. Ball.

You couldn't do it?

Mr. Mcwatters.

I wouldn't do it and I wouldn't do it now.

Mr. Ball.

You signed an affidavit for the Dallas Police Department, do you remember that?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

I will show you a copy of it, we can get the original if you want, but there is a copy of it, a picture taken of it. Will you read it, please?
(At this point, Representative Ford withdrew from the hearing room.)

Mr. Ball.

This document, I would like to have marked as 377, at this time, Commission Exhibit, with the understanding that we may substitute the photostat for the original.
Senator COOPER. Very well; let it be substituted. It has been identified, and will be identified.

Mr. Ball.

Yes, it will be; I will identify it for the record as a photostat of an affidavit of Cecil J. McWatters made before Patsy Collins, Notary Public of Dallas County, Tex. November 22, 1963.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit 377, and received in evidence.)
Mr. Ball, Now, having read that, first of all, does that look like your signature, Mr. McWatters?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir; it does.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember the circumstances under which you made that affidavit?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Well, I just told them the best I could remember.

Mr. Ball.

I am showing this to you for the purpose of refreshing your memory.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, I know.

Mr. Ball.

I know it has been several months.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, I know what you mean.

Mr. Ball.

And sometimes when you see something that you signed before it refreshes your memory.

Mr. Mcwatters.

It sure does.
Yes, that is what you mean, I know what you mean, I said that looked like the man I saw.

Mr. Ball.

In this affidavit, it says, it mentions the fact that when you went to Marsalis and picked up a woman.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

You asked her if she knew the President had been shot, you told us about that a few moments ago.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

She thought you were kidding, and you told her, "I told her if she didn't believe me to ask the man behind her, that he had told me the President was shot in the temple."

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Was the man, was that the teenager?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That is right, sir, that was the teenage boy. In other words, he was, I would say, around 17 or 18 years old.

Mr. Ball.

You said here, "The man didn't say anything but he was grinning."

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Do you think that happened?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Well, when the lady asked him, he just kind of grinned,