(Testimony of Buell Wesley Frazier)
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; I said it could have, now I am not saying it was.
Mr. Ball.
In other words, it could have been longer than his hands?
Mr. Frazier.
Right.
Mr. Ball.
It has been suggested that you take this bag, which is the colored bag, Commission Exhibit No. 142, and put it under your arm just as a sample, or just to show about how he carried the bag.
Mr. Frazier.
Okay.
Mr. Ball.
Put it under your armpit.
Mr. Frazier.
Like that, normally your hand would come down like that and you would say, you would have an item, like you have seen people carry items like they would be walking along and your arm would come down like that, just like --
Mr. Ball.
But are you sure that his hand was at the end of the package or at the side of the package?
Mr. Frazier.
Like I said, I remember I didn't look at the package very much, paying much attention, but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.
Mr. Ball.
But you said a moment ago you weren't sure whether the package was longer or shorter.
Mr. Frazier.
And his hands because I couldn't see that about the package.
Mr. Ball.
By that, do you mean that you don't know whether the package extended beyond his hands?
Mr. Frazier.
This way?
Mr. Ball.
No; lengthwise, toward his feet.
Mr. Frazier.
No; now I don't mean that.
Mr. Ball.
What do you mean?
Mr. Frazier.
What I was talking about, I said I didn't know where it extended. It could have or couldn't have, out this way, widthwise not lengthwise.
Mr. Ball.
In other words, you say it could have been wider than your original estimate?
Mr. Frazier.
Right.
Mr. Ball.
But you don't think it was longer than his hands?
Mr. Frazier.
Right.
Mr. Ball.
How tall are you?
Mr. Frazier.
I am 6-foot, a little bit over 6-foot.
Mr. Ball.
Do you know what your arm length is?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir; I don't.
Mr. Ball.
We can probably measure it before you leave.
Did you ever see Lee taking home anything with him from the Texas Book Depository Building?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir; never did.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever see him taking a package home with him?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
When was the last time you can remember you saw Lee?
Mr. Frazier.
You mean on the 22d?
Mr. Ball.
On the 22d, that day.
Mr. Frazier.
Somewhere between it was after 10 and somewhere before noon, because I remember I was walking down to the first floor that day, that was the only time I went up on the elevator was, like I say, for a few minutes and, I put that box of books up and put it down, and I was on the first floor putting up books all day and I seen him back and forth and he would be walking and getting books and put on the order.
Mr. Ball.
That was the last time you saw him all day?
Mr. Frazier.
Right
Mr. Ball.
You didn't talk to him again?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. Ball.
Did you wear a coat or jacket to work that morning?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. Ball.
It was chilly, was it?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; it was.
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