Mr. Hubert.

Did he allow them to make dates out of the club that you know

Mr. Pryor.

Not that I know of, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he prohibit it?

Mr. Pryor.

Once again, I couldn't say. That would come under his business.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I'm asking you because you actually worked there for a considerable period of time, and I wondered what you yourself observed about it?

Mr. Pryor.

I do know that the girls would go with fellows, but it seemed that they were their steadies and dates, you know.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know of any regulation or rule of the house, as it were, that no girl could date a man from the club ?

Mr. Pryor.

No, sir; I wasn't aware of that, if it did exist.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what his attitude toward the opposite sex-was generally ?

Mr. Pryor.

He was impressed with them--I'll say that. Whether he was--well, I don't know how to put it, but anyhow--he was engaged, I know, at one time, and I know at the time I started working for him he was engaged to a girl and why they didn't get married, I don't know, but he had gone with her.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever observe any traits which you might classify as homosexual in Jack Ruby ?

Mr. Pryor.

No, sir; now, he was a peculiar duck, and he's not the type of person that--well, I consider myself a normal individual to a degree, but he was a little rational---

Mr. Hubert.

He was a little "rational" or "irrational"? I didn't catch the word?

Mr. Pryor.

Well, let's see how do I want to put it? Would it be rational?

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I don't know. Apparently you have some doubt in your mind as to the meaning of the word, and perhaps you had better use another word. What did you have in mind? Perhaps you could use another word to describe it? You said he was a peculiar duck and I gather from that that he was a little different from other people?

Mr. Pryor.

Well, maybe it was because he was in that particular type of business that he acted a little different towards women than guys in the band, because musicians are notorious for their

Mr. Hubert.

Interest in the girls at the club, is that what you mean?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir. I'm glad you phrased it that way.

Mr. Hubert.

And he was a little different from that?

Mr. Pryor.

Well, like I say now--due to the fact that he was closer associated with a number of girls that he acted that way or why it was--I couldn't tell you, but when you mentioned--did he have any homosexual tendencies--he had never made any advances to me or to anyone that I knew

Mr. Hubert.

You never observed anything that would indicate any such thing as that at all?

Mr. Pryor.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Actually, you have not been an employee there for quite a number of years; isn't that right?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How many exactly--about 8 or 10, I take it?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

But your friendship with him had continued throughout the years ?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; he had always treated me good. I mean--as far as a friend you know.

Mr. Hubert.

I know, but I mean after you left his employ as a musician or an artist or entertainer, which I gather was around 1954 or something like that?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you continue to contact him, was it Just social?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; I had gone down to the Carousel Club.

Mr. Hubert.

As a customer?

Mr. Pryor.

As a guest, because as a customer, I would pay, but as a guest--whenever I came up, which was very rare, but at different times I had gone up to his club Just to catch the floor show and to observe primarily the MC's and listen to their routines. That was the type of work that I had done.