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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIV - Page 85« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard Resumed)

Mr. Griffin.
I believe we did, but why don't you ask the questions?
Mr. Hubert.
It wasn't clear to me, perhaps I didn't catch it, as to whether or not Jack kept the gun in the trunk of the car or on his person.
Mr. Crafard.
In the trunk of the car, he kept it in a money sack in the trunk of the car.
Mr. Griffin.
I believe your testimony was that, so that Mr. Hubert can be brought up to date, that you only ever saw him carry the gun on his person on two occasions, one of those occasions being when you brought the gun up to him at the club in connection with some sort of an argument that he had, and the other one was when he brought it in a money bag on one occasion.
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
So that your testimony a few moments ago concerning the money and how you saw him put money in there, sometimes you carried it down, or at least saw it there, is that when there was money there there was a gun with the money, usually in a sack with the money?
Mr. Crafard.
The money was usually in a different, separate sack from the gun, but at times he would take the sacks, on these two occasions that I know of, he took the sack the money was in, the sack the gun was in and put them all in a larger sack.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you know him to own a holster?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
To hold a gun?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
On the two occasions that he did have the gun on his person, how did he have it?
Mr. Crafard.
It was inside of a money sack, and he carried it in his hands, the money sack wrapped around the gun and laying in his hand.
Mr. Hubert.
That is the two occasions that you say he had it on his person?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
You never saw him put it in his pocket or his waistbelt?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
That is all.
Mr. Griffin.
Had you ever heard from Jack or Andy Armstrong or anybody else that Jack had ever been robbed or burglarized?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Continuing on with your copy of the FBI interview report, are there any other corrections or additions or changes that you would make?
Mr. Crafard.
One addition I would like to make to my testimony of the fact that when Ruby first came to the club on the day that President Kennedy was killed, and before he left he called the paper and placed an ad to the effect that we would be closed, from the club.
Mr. Griffin.
You are reading this out of what is page 150?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Of your interview report?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
You have had a chance to read this interview report, and does this refresh your recollection?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes. After reading it yesterday evening, and thinking about the whole thing yesterday, last night at the hotel, I have refreshed my memory to some extent.
Mr. Griffin.
After having refreshed your recollection with this report, are you able to state how soon after Ruby came into the club he told And. y Armstrong to notify the personnel?
Mr. Crafard.
It wasn't more than about a half hour or 45 minutes after he came into the club.
Mr. Griffin.
But he didn't do it right away?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
You people sat around for awhile?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you discuss as you were sitting there the question of closing the club?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't believe we did.
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