Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

As working for Jack?

Mr. Crafard.

Only the time, from the time the State fair closed.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall what kind of electrical equipment Jack was purchasing, looking for when you went with him?

Mr. Crafard.

Some speakers and--that is the boxes that are used to work a speaker out of, the amplifier box.

Mr. Griffin.

Where was he going to use these items?

Mr. Crafard.

In the Carousel Club.

Mr. Griffin.

Had he had those items there before?

Mr. Crafard.

He had the items in the Carousel Club, but he was going to replace them with some better models.

Mr. Griffin.

Were his exiting models defective in any way?

Mr. Crafard.

There was always something going wrong with one speaker or the other.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he actually replace these?

Mr. Crafard.

Not while I was there; no.

Mr. Griffin.

What happened at the electronics store that you. visited?

Mr. Crafard.

He talked with the gentleman for a few minutes and I believe he give them a free pass to the Carousel Club.

Mr. Griffin.

What did he do in connection with buying equipment?

Mr. Crafard.

He had choked out some equipment they had there, their prices, the types of equipment.

Mr. Griffin.

What price range of equipment was he talking about?

Mr. Crafard.

He was wanting to get a better model amplifier as cheaply as he could.

Mr. Griffin.

Would this have been an expenditure of over $100?

Mr. Crafard.

I really don't know, but I don't believe so. Could I go back a little bit to the day. I believe that was about a week after I went to work for Jack.

Mr. Griffin.

Now you testified yesterday I think that the girl whom you identified in some pictures taken on the street outside the Carousel with Jack Ruby, you identified this girl as Gloria McDonald.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Could her name have been Gloria Fillmore?

Mr. Crafard.

Her name could have been, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Are you sure about the name McDonald?

Mr. Crafard.

No. In fact if I may be allowed to say so, I am not positive that this girl is the girl I knew as Gloria. Her name could have been something entirely different. I believe it was Gloria.

Mr. Griffin.

You believe it was Gloria in this picture?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

But you are not completely positive.

Mr. Crafard.

No. I never knew her last name.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me try to refresh your recollection a little bit. Going back to Wednesday, November 20, 2 days before the President was killed, and Thursday, November 21, do you remember on either of those 2 days receiving any telephone calls from Bruce Carlin?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe Bruce called the evening of Wednesday, the 20th wanting to speak to Little Lynn. I am not positive but I believe so.

Mr. Griffin.

Now how about on the 21st. Do you remember anything on the 21st?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't recall anything, no. He might have but I don't recall.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you ever remember on the 21st a telephone call being placed to Jack Ruby in the early portion of the evening, and your answering the phone and talking to the person on the phone?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember it, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Bruce Carlin ever have occasion to call Jack Ruby in your recollection?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember him ever doing so.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ever meet any of Bruce Carlin's friends?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't believe so.