Mr. Griffin.

Wally Weston?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Johnny Turner?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And anyone else?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe that was all. I can't remember who the M.C. was when I first went to work for Jack.

Mr. Griffin.

Was it a different one other than the three we have mentioned?

Mr. Crafard.

I am not sure. That is what I was trying to remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Did these M.C.'s have a regular run of a prescribed number of weeks that they would play?

Mr. Crafard.

No; maybe they might come in for 2 or 3 weeks, or they might be there for 1 week and then they might stay for 3 or 4 months. It would depend on the contract that they signed with Mr. Ruby.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Buddy Heard ever come and appear?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't believe he was ever there while I was there.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to show you what has been marked as Exhibit 5214 and I want to ask you if you recognize any of the patrons in those photographs.

Mr. Crafard.

The heavy set gentleman that has been mentioned before is in the second photograph in the left-hand series. He is in the first photograph in the middle series, That is all. But other than that, I don't recognize any of the other patrons.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to hand you now what has been marked as 5214-A and all the markings are in the same fashion as the previous ones. Do you recognize any of the patrons in there?

Mr. Crafard.

The patron in the second and third photographs on the right-hand side looks familiar but I can't place him.

Mr. Griffin.

What I am handing you is Exhibit 5215 which is also marked in the same fashion as the others. Do you recognize any of the patrons there?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

I show you Exhibit 5216. You will notice that this appears to be the interior of a dressing room and there is some sort of a plaque on the wall in the top two photographs in the center and the photograph in the lower righthand corner. Do you recall what that plaque is?

Mr. Crafard.

No, I don't,

Mr. Griffin.

Can you state whether that picture was taken at the Carousel?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you recognize those as Carousel Club dressing rooms?

Mr. Crafard.

Oh, yes. The dressing rooms have been redecorated since I worked there, I know that.

Mr. Griffin.

Did the dressing rooms look as they appear in that photograph at any time while you were employed at the Carousel?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't believe that is the dressing room of the Carousel. I don't remember this stuff along the bottom picture, the left-hand side of the bottom picture in the left-hand column. The plywood door that is shown in several pictures, I don't recognize that as being of the dressing room at the Carousel.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to hand you what has been marked in the same fashion as Exhibit 5217. Do you recognize the patron that is shown in that photograph?

Mr. Crafard.

No, I don't, but I believe from this picture I can pretty well state that that other last picture was photographs of the girls' dressing room, from the location of the table. Instead of a door that was a window that had been boarded up.

Mr. Griffin.

I show you Exhibit 5218 which has been marked in the same fashion. Do you recognize any of the patrons in that photograph?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Exhibit 5219 which has been marked in the same fashion? Do you recognize any of those patrons?

Mr. Crafard.

Only that I believe this one has been showed in previous pictures.

Mr. Griffin.

Is this a duplicate of something we already have?