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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIV - Page 647« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Kay Helen Olsen)

Mrs. Olsen.
Not that I remember; no. And we were sitting there; it was late, and that's when Jack Ruby drove by.
Mr. Specter.
What time did he drive by?
Mrs. Olsen.
Oh, I can't be positive on these times.
Mr. Specter.
About what time?
Mrs. Olsen.
I guess around 1.
Mr. Specter.
Did he stop?
Mrs. Olsen.
Yes. We waved, and he stopped. He stopped at a red light and pulled in and he came in and sat in the car and talked to us for quite a while.
Mr. Specter.
How long did that conversation last?
Mrs. Olsen.
Oh, I guess an hour or so at least.
Mr. Specter.
As nearly as you can recollect, tell me exactly what he said and what you said to him?
Mrs. Olsen.
Well, everyone was shocked, you know, and we talked about Mrs. Kennedy and the children and how terrible it was, and he told us he had been down to the police station to take the boys some sandwiches down there, and he was real upset, kind of wild-eyed, had his real stary look, and he was upset that--well, he was mad that these other clubowners hadn't closed down.
Mr. Specter.
Which clubowners?
Mrs. Olsen.
The Theatre Lounge and the Colony Club. I hate to remember all this stuff, I really do. You know, I have such a different life now and I hate to rehash it all.
Mr. Specter.
What else did Mr. Ruby say at that time?
Mrs. Olsen.
I think he told us he had seen Oswald transferred, if I remember right, and we asked him what he looked like and he said he looked like a little rat, real sneaky looking.
Mr. Specter.
He saw him transferred from where to where?
Mrs. Olsen.
I don't know. He saw him down there. I think as they were moving him from one room to another.
Mr. Specter.
He saw down where?
Mrs. Olsen.
At the police station.
Mr. Specter.
Did he say anything more about Oswald?
Mrs. Olsen.
Oh, I guess he cussed him out a bit. He was just real upset.
Mr. Specter.
Did he. say anything about what he intended to
Mrs. Olsen.
About his club?
Mr. Specter.
About anything.
Mrs. Olsen.
No.
Mr. Specter.
Did he say he intended to shoot Oswald?
Mrs. Olsen.
No.
Mr. Specter.
Do you know whether or not Ruby knew Oswald?
Mrs. Olsen.
I don't think he did.
Mr. Specter.
Did you ever see Oswald in the club?
Mrs. Olsen.
No.
Mr. Specter.
Had you ever seen Oswald at all?
Mrs. Olsen.
No.
Mr. Specter.
What else did Ruby say at that time?
Mrs. Olsen.
That's about all I can remember.
Mr. Specter.
Was there any conversation about Officer J. D. Tippit?
Mrs. Olsen.
No. Was Tippit shot that day? Yes; he was, wasn't he?
Mr. Specter.
Tippit was shot on Friday afternoon; that day.
Mrs. Olsen.
Yes. I can't remember, because I didn't know Officer Tippit.
Mr. Specter.
Do you know whether or not Mr. Ruby knew Officer J. D. Tippit?
Mrs. Olsen.
Well, I read in the papers that he did.
Mr. Specter.
Aside from what you read in the papers, do you have any personal knowledge----
Mrs. Olsen.
No.
Mr. Specter.
As to whether Mr. Ruby knew Officer Tippit?
Mrs. Olsen.
No.
Mr. Specter.
Did Mr. Olsen know Officer Tippit?
Mrs. Olsen.
He said he did.
Mr. Specter.
Did he know him well?
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