Mr. Senator.

help all got paid off they were all paid off in cash. When they wanted to borrow money they were all paid off in cash. Just like here I can't quote how much money he had at any time.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Now .let me ask you to read over what I have marked as Washington, D.C., April 22, 1964, George Senator Deposition, Exhibit 5403, and I signed that. It is the report of Agents Rawlings and Glonek. Would you read that over, and tell me, go through that in the same fashion as we have with the others.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Are there any additions, corrections, or explanations that you feel ought to be made to Exhibit 5403?

Mr. Senator.

Let me go through this fast. I think there aren't but let me make sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me ask you before we get into this, was that interview made at your request?

Mr. Senator.

No; I was sent for. Why would I request it?

Mr. Griffin.

I don't know. Some people call the FBI and tell them they have something more to tell them.

Mr. Senator.

No; I was sent for. I have had a pretty good amount of questioning you know. I, like any other individual of the nature that I am, I don't think is too happy about all this. And who would be?

Mr. Griffin.

Now that you raise that, we might get on the record the fact that I believe you have expressed to me at lunch during the last 2 days that you feel that this is an unfortunate circumstance in your life.

Mr. Senator.

Certainly it is. It ain't going to do my life any good.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you explain? Would you want to convey some of the feelings here on the record that you gave to me?

Mr. Senator.

I feel I will always be pointed at, if anybody knows my name of the nature of the conditions that surrounds me.

Mr. Griffin.

You feel a certain amount of shame or disgrace?

Mr. Senator.

No; let me say there will probably be a disturbance. They will always point to Jack Ruby's roommate, Jack Ruby's roommate, something of that nature, you know. What does phonetic mean?

Mr. Griffin.

That means that they don't know whether the spelling is correct, but without knowing how to correctly spell it that is the way they would write it, from the sound. Mr. Senator, as you read through that if you come to anything that you think ought to be modified or changed, why, point it out, because I assume that the two pages that you have read so far----

Mr. Senator.

I am reading it pretty fast. I am a little bit on the punchy side, you know.

Mr. Griffin.

If you want us to walk out and sort of relieve your mind.

Mr. Senator.

No; there is one item in here where it states "He carried his money in a sack." This is only partial. It was in his pockets, in the sack.

Mr. Griffin.

The trunk of the car?

Mr. Senator.

The trunk of the car. No, no; mind you if it is in the sack it goes in the trunk of the car.

Mr. Griffin.

Anything else in that interview report that you would want to----

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't know if this means anything, it is in his pocket, to you I mean. I don't know. This says here where he took the revolver and placed it on the bag on top of the money. This is not always----

Mr. Griffin.

What did he place on the bag on top of the money?

Mr. Senator.

The gun on top of the moneybag. "Placed it in the bag on top of the money." To me it is not important. The gun may be next to it or something like that, who knows where he put it.

Mr. Griffin.

Now let me ask you a couple of closing questions. One thing we haven't talked about here. That was, how many sets of keys did Jack Ruby have?

Mr. Senator.

To the clubs?

Mr. Griffin.

Did he have more than one key chain?

Mr. Senator.

I think he had two small ones. I think one for the car, I'm not