Mr. Griffin.

You were at Jack's?

Mr. Senator.

That was a day I will tell you I don't think a living soul in Dallas had any ambition to work. You would have to see that town that day and the feeling of all the individuals in that town. It was really a sad, sad day. It was a weeping day. I'll tell you that is what it was; it was a weeping day for the city.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you go to the Burgundy Room? Where did you go from Jack's when you first heard this news?

Mr. Senator.

I think I went downtown; did a little desk work again. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Talk out loud and then we can correct it.

Mr. Senator.

I am not sure what it was. I don't remember anymore. I think I went to the Burgundy Room. I think I just messed around downtown in the area. No particular place.

Mr. Griffin.

Would it be a place like the Burgundy Room, a tavern?

Mr. Senator.

Probably so; probably so.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember any people you saw on Friday?

Mr. Senator.

I can't recollect. It was a very sad day.

Mr. Griffin.

I think that is a day that is rather vivid to most of us. I know it is with me. I am just wondering if you can't think where you were that day, and who you talked to.

Mr. Senator.

In all probability I probably spoke to many people downtown that day, or various places, wherever I may have been.

Mr. Griffin.

What other places are you accustomed to go to besides the Burgundy Room?

Mr. Senator.

The Burgundy Room; there is another place I used to drop in, which is called the Smuggler, which is uptown. These are both places that I went to. Of course, the Burgundy Room is No. 1. The other place I do go just occasionally, I do go to the place occasionally.

Mr. Griffin.

When you say you were hanging around downtown, you were hanging around someplace where you could have a drink, a bite to eat, or something of that sort?

Mr. Senator.

I would probably say that.

Mr. Griffin.

And you wouldn't have been in a department store or a drug-store, someplace like that?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't think so. I mean I don't know. A department store; definitely I haven't been in there.

Mr. Griffin.

We are talking about someplace where you could get a drink, watch television, and watch the events on television. Did you spend all day watching the events on television?

Mr. Senator.

No; I didn't. I think I was in the downtown area. I think I was in the downtown area most of that day, if I am not mistaken. I don't remember just where I was. I may have floated from downtown uptown. I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you think you had quite a bit to drink that day?

Mr. Senator.

I will probably say I had maybe a fair amount. I mean, to be drunk or anything of that nature, I don't think I Was drunk that day.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it you are pretty well able to hold your liquor, from what you said before. You feel that you are?

Mr. Senator.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

So that I wonder if----

Mr. Senator.

In other words, I got to be careful when I'm driving because if you get nabbed by the Dallas cops, you are in trouble, but good trouble, and I don't want to get in that condition.

Mr. Griffin.

What I am wondering, from what you are saying here, if it isn't a fair impression to draw----

Mr. Senator.

If it isn't what?

Mr. Griffin.

If I couldn't fairly infer that you had been drinking most of the time after you heard that the President was shot, although you don't feel that you had been drinking so much that you weren't in control of yourself.

Mr. Senator.

Oh, I was in control of myself.