Mr. Senator.

I remained there for a while and then he stayed there. I'm trying to figure where I went from there.

Mr. Hubert.

After you left Seder, if you left the apartment in which you were living with Seder at Columbia Avenue, do you recall whether you then.

Mr. Senator.

I Stayed there for a while.

Mr. Hubert.

You Stayed there for a while alone?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I had my own place.

Mr. Hubert.

When you moved next, did you move in with somebody else or were you alone?

Mr. Senator.

No; I moved in with somebody else. I'm trying to think where, though.

Mr. Hubert.

It might help if you remember who it was that you lived with?

Mr. Senator.

I think I moved to the Oasis.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that an apartment house?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; these are all apartment houses--the various places. They have all been apartment houses. That was on Live Oak. I believe that is where I moved next.

Mr. Hubert.

Whom did you share that apartment with?

Mr. Senator.

I stayed there with two other boys, Ronnie Unger and Kenny--I can't think of his last name.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you live there?

Mr. Senator.

Pardon me?

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you live there?

Mr. Senator.

Let me get to this first, please. After I moved, when I moved in with them, the thing I was trying to figure out before I got there, now I got through with Smoler Brothers and I can't think of what year. Do you have a Hating of it?

Mr. Hubert.

Our records indicate you last worked for Smoler's, or rather, that there is no more income reported from Smoler's after July of 1958.

Mr. Senator.

That is probably when I got through, in 1958. That is when I got through with Smoler's, in 1958. I don't remember when I was with Smoler's that I was still living at Columbia Avenue or not. I may have been living there yet. I don't remember.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, we have the sequence of your addresses and the last place was at the Oasis.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, from Oasis where did you go to live?

Mr. Senator.

Where I moved to?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

From the Oasis I think, I'm not sure now but I think from the I think I went on the road for 9 months and just lived all over, if I recall right.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you working with Smoler's then?

Mr. Senator.

No; I'm not sure I went from the Oasis. I don't remember if I----

Mr. Hubert.

Let's see if this will assist your memory. The social security reports indicate that after the second quarter of 1958, which would mean after July of 1958, you reported no income or no earnings were reported, put it that way, for the last half of 1958, for all of 1959, for all of 1960, and for all of 1961. Now, can you tell us what you were doing and where you were living for those 3 1/2 years, starting from July of 1958 until apparently----

Mr. Senator.

July of 1958?

Mr. Hubert.

July of 1958 until apparently the beginning of 1962, when you were employed by the Volume Sales Co. and Merchandise Mart, Dallas. That is 3 1/2 years there and I would like to know Just what you were doing and where you were living?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I don't know if I can put them all together right.

Mr. Hubert.

Do the best you can.

Mr. Senator.

Now, when I was still living on Columbia Avenue, I don't remember if I was still with Smoler's then.

Mr. Hubert.

In any case you moved to the Oasis?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I moved to the Oasis.