Mr. Senator.

calling me for. He, said, "George, we are releasing a couple of men and we want you to go to Dallas." And I didn't want to go. But he said, "You are going." So I wound up in Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

When was that? I know you said is was a Friday, but do you remember the year, the month?

Mr. Senator.

No. Oh, wait; yes. It was 10 years ago.

Mr. Hubert.

1954?

Mr. Senator.

Because I have been there ---come next month, it will be 10 years I have been there.

Mr. Hubert.

So the telephone conversation on Friday would have been in May of 1954, on a Friday?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Actually, May 15, I think you said.

Mr. Senator.

No; I think I arrived in Dallas, I think it was May 15.

Mr. Hubert.

Did your wife go with you?

Mr. Senator.

No; she wouldn't go.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you been living together up to that time?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that the cause of your separation?

Mr. Senator.

I believe that is.

Mr. Hubert.

She never did go to Dallas?

Mr. Senator.

No; she wouldn't go, and I had a job to hold down.

Mr. Hubert.

She kept the child?

Mr. Senator.

She kept the child.

Mr. Hubert.

And still has it?

Mr. Senator.

And stilt has it, and, of course, there could have been a possibility if I didn't go--I only say possibility-- that I could have been released from my job. This, I only say, there could have been a possibility.

Mr. Hubert.

Now tell us what you did then in Dallas. You continued to work, I take it, for Smoler's?

Mr. Senator.

Oh, yes; sure.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you live? Can you give us a list of the various places where you lived?

Mr. Senator.

The first year I was just living, you know, in motels, from one place, you know, wherever I was, because I was traveling the State of Texas.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your territory there?

Mr. Senator.

Texas.

Mr. Hubert.

The whole of Texas?

Mr. Senator.

I started off the whole thing and then I wound down until I probably wound up with just a corner of it. And when I wound up with that there I said this is not for me, because I can't make it on only part of Texas.

Mr. Hubert.

Of course, that comes a little later.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you live in Dallas? Give us a list of your various addresses just roughly.

Mr. Senator.

The first place that I actually centrally located in, I don't remember the name of the place but I do remember the name of the street.

Mr. Hubert.

All right.

Mr. Senator.

I could go to the place and know where it is but I can't think of the name of the place, which was on McKinney Avenue.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay there?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know. I would probably say, I'd have to guess, I would probably say maybe 6 months to a year. I'm not sure now.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it an apartment?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; it was an apartment.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you alone?

Mr. Senator.

No; I was with a couple other boys.

Mr. Hubert.

Who were they?

Mr. Senator.

One fellow by the name of George Guest. George Guest, he was a, what do you call them, xylophones. He was a musician.

Mr. Hubert.

He played the instrument called the xylophone?