Mr. Hubert.

You mean what is commonly called the basement area including the parking area, the garage area, the two ramps and the space between the two ramps?
Captain MARTIN. I am sure it is, because I didn't use the word "compound."

Mr. Hubert.

Let's look at it this way, would this statement be correct then if we changed the word "compound," to be defined as the general basement area as I just defined it a moment ago?
Captain MARTIN. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

So, then it would be correct to say that, to your knowledge, the two ramps, to wit, those the one leading from Main Street, and the one leading from Commerce Street were the only entrances to the basement area, as we defined it a moment ago, that Ruby could have used?
Captain MARTIN. More that he could have used, yes; but, of course, you

Mr. HUBERT. Of course, this says the only entrance, and if you wish to qualify
it--
Captain MARTIN. We were speaking of these two ramps. And we were talking of him coming down into the basement off the street.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes, sir.
Captain MARTIN. Of course, you have got .the city hall. I mean, the police and courts building, and also got the city hall. He could have been---come down the elevator over here [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

I take it you want to modify this statement then so that your present opinion is that it is not correct to say that the Main Street and the Commerce Street entrances were the only mode of entrance to the basement?
Captain MARTIN. No, no; there are other ways to get in there.

Mr. Hubert.

That is what I mean. What other ways are there?
Captain MARTIN. There is---coming from the police and courts building to the basement, or you can come down the elevator in the city hall into the garage area and come across, but as far as I remember, that wasn't brought up. They were speaking of those two ramps.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, let me ask you this: Was the explanation that we have now put into the record, are you satisfied that this document, 5059, is substantially correct?
Captain MARTIN. I don't know exactly what he means here by "He knew of no unauthorized persons to be in the basement." I don't know what

Mr. Hubert.

Well, sir; if you wish to modify that in any way so that we now know what you are thinking is about it, I ask you to please do so.
Captain MARTIN. I don't quite that is not very clear to me, "He knew of no unauthorized persons permitted to be in the basement."

Mr. Hubert.

Let me get at it this way. Do you know what security precautions were being taken to be sure that unauthorized persons were not in the basement?
Captain MARTIN. Yes; they had men at the top of both of the outside ramps, and I presume that they were supposed to stop anybody coming in, but apparently they didn't.
. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know what was meant by "unauthorized persons"?
Captain MARTIN. Well, there were so many people down there. The press, TV, radio. Of course, all had been checked before they came in. I don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you receive any specific instructions, yourself, as to checking? Captain MARTIN. I didn't receive any instructions at all.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know, or was there anything told to you whereby you could recognize an unauthorized person?
Captain MARTIN. Nothing was said. Of course, if I'd had seen Jack Ruby, I'd have known him. I've known him for a long time.

Mr. Hubert.

Did any of the people have identifying badges or anything of that sort ?
Captain MARTIN. No; so far as I know, they didn't. In fact, there was nothing ----there was nothing said about who was to be down there and who wasn't.
There was nothing said about anything--I didn't know anything about it.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, when did you come on duty that day, sir?
Captain MARTIN. That morning, it was my Sunday to work, 8:15.