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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. X - Page 76« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Philip Iii Geraci)

Mr. Geraci.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now, is it correct that on the day that you came into the Casa Roca to give this money to Carlos that you met Lee Oswald?
Mr. Geraci.
I don't know if I turned in the money or not. No; I don't think I turned in money, but I couldn't be sure. I remember I went there, and that is the time the last guy, Vance Blalock, came along with me. It was his first time and everything. And we went in there I might have turned it in, I am not too sure. Maybe I did; maybe I didn't. I can't remember too much, but I was in there anyway talking to him and that is when I met him.
Mr. Liebeler.
That is when you met Oswald?
Mr. Geraci.
Yes; you want me to tell all that?
Mr. Liebeler.
Yes; tell me all the circumstances of how Oswald----
Mr. Geraci.
Everything I know?
Mr. Liebeler.
Met you and everything you know about it, what the conversation was, who was there.
Mr. Geraci.
Well, we were--Vance and me went in there, Vance and I, we went into there, I introduced Vance to Carlos, and Carlos started talking to him about, you know; freedom and all that, democracy and everything. Then later on while we were talking, Lee Oswald came in, you know, while we were talking, and he came in a little while later. He was by himself and he seemed a little nervous. I remember he was dressed just like in that picture there shows.
[Indicating photograph.]
Mr. Liebeler.
You are referring to a picture here on the table?
Mr. Geraci.
Yes, sir; well he was dressed something like that.
Mr. Liebeler.
Which has previously been marked as Exhibit 1 to the affidavit of Jesse J. Garner. I show you that picture. [Exhibiting photograph to witness.] You say Lee was dressed something like that when you met him?
Mr. Geraci.
Yes; you know, he had on a tie and a shirt, short sleeved shirt, and sort of like dress pants. I don't know the color of them, but they were sort of like dress pants, just about as much as this. [Indicating photograph.]
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you recognize that individual in the picture as being the man that you saw in the store that day?
Mr. Geraci.
Well, tell you the truth, when I first heard about it in the papers and on the TV, I didn't recognize him. See, I forgot that I met this guy over there, you know, I forgot about it, and I thought I didn't meet him. It wasn't until the FBI man came to my house and he showed me a picture of him when he was first under arrest, and he got arrested in August, the 4th I think.
Mr. Liebeler.
He showed you a picture that had been taken of Lee when he had been under arrest here in New Orleans?
Mr. Geraci.
Yes; it was one of those things with three things, showing him from the front, the side, and his face.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you then recognize the man in the picture, that they showed you as being the man that you met in the store that day?
Mr. Geraci.
Well, you see, I didn't exactly recognize him maybe, but anyway I was pretty sure it was him though. He said--he showed me that and said, "Do you ever remember an ex-marine and then I remembered there was a guy who was dressed something like that who was an ex-marine who came in, and he did have a funny name, you know, like Lee. It's a little unusual, it's kind of rare, and I remembered the last name was a little hard, so it just fits that that was him.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now what kind of conversations did you have with this fellow or what did you talk about?
Mr. Geraci.
Well, first.
Mr. Liebeler.
As I understand it now, there were this marine, Lee Oswald, and Carlos, and Vance Blalock and yourself. Is that right?
Mr. Geraci.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Was there anybody else there?
Mr. Geraci.
Well, while we were talking, this man came up. He was in a big truck, some big truck. I never looked at it closely. He came up and stopped, and the man rushed in, and he was wearing--well, he was wearing one of these like a cap like you see them wearing over in England. I don't know what kind it is, but anyway it is the kind that truckdrivers wear, I guess, and
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