Mr. Belin.

In what direction, generally, would the camera have been pointed, and where would you have been standing when you took these pictures?

Mr. COUCH. Some of the pictures, I remember, the camera was pointing south---because I was standing on the little knoll which is just at the foot and west of the Depository Building, where the little park area begins. There's a sidewalk that runs between the Book Depository property, I would assume and the park. And I was standing on that little sidewalk.

Mr. Belin.

And your camera was pointing south?

Mr. Couch.

Pointing south. That's right. Now, after I had taken I don't know how many feet of film of people standing around, I--uh--we---I think there was one or two other fellows with me and who they were, now, I can't remember; they were photographers---we stopped a car that was going by with a boy in it---a young boy of about high school age and asked him to take us out to Parkland. And as the car stared off, I stared my camera and I have a sweeping shot moving west from about--uh--maybe the middle of the Book Depository Building from ground level on past the park area---a sweeping shot with the car moving.
Mr. BELIN. And that's about it insofar as the School Book Depository Building is concerned?
Mr. COUCH. Well, no. After we got out to Stemmons---they'd set up a roadblock just as you entered Stemmons Expressway.

Mr. Belin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Couch.

We jumped out of the car and I took, I believe it was, a 2-inch lens shot of the Book Depository Building of the west wall.

Mr. Belin.

Of the west wall?

Mr. Couch.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Not of the front entrance?

Mr. Couch.

No.
Mr. BELIN. Is there any particular reason, Mr. Couch, why you didn't take your first pictures of the School Book Depository Building itself when you say you saw a rifle being withdrawn?
Mr. COUCH. Well, uh--as best I can recall, the excitement on the ground of people running and policemen "revving" up their motorcycles-and I have a real nice shot of a policeman running toward me with his pistol drawn--the activity on the ground kept my attention. The reason I did not stay and take pictures of the Depository Building--which I had originally intended to do when I got out of the motorcade---was that--uh--another cameraman from our station, A. J. L'Hoste--- [spelling] L-'-H-o-s-t-e---he came running up and--uh--when he ran up, why I said, "You stay here and get shots of the building and go inside and I'm going to go back--I'm going to follow the President."

Mr. Belin.

All right. Was he also a moving picture cameraman?

Mr. Couch.

Yes; right.

Mr. Belin.

Where was he at the time you made this statement?

Mr. COUCH. Uh--he was standing on that little sidewalk that runs between the I met him on the little sidewalk between the Book Depository property and the beginning of the parkway.

Mr. Belin.

That would be the west side of the Depository Building?

Mr. Couch.

That's right; that's right. It's there that I saw the blood on the sidewalk.

Mr. Belin.

All right. Now, you say you saw blood on the sidewalk, Mr.Couch?

Mr. Couch.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

Where was that?

Mr. COUCH. This was the little walkway---steps and walkway that leads up to the corner, the west corner, the southwest corner of the Book Depository Building. Another little sidewalk, as I recall, turns west and forms that little parkway and archway right next to the Book Depository Building.

Mr. Belin.

Did this appear to be freshly created blood ?

Mr. Couch.

Yes; right.

Mr. Belin.

About how large was this spot of blood that you saw?

Mr. Couch.

Uh--from 8 to 10 inches in diameter.

Mr. Belin.

Did people around there say how it happened to get there, or not?